George R.
1322 posts
Feb 03, 2009
10:02 PM
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Can anyone tell me why a Person would put thier kit birds in a small box and release them a quarter mile away from the kit Box?
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PAUL R.
31 posts
Feb 03, 2009
10:33 PM
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Thats an easy one. The birds have bad habits. Upon releasing them from the kit box they problably land on the roof or at the neighbors house or on the telephone wire. So to break them out of it, at times its best to make them fly from a distance.
Just my thoughts,
Paul R.
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0221
39 posts
Feb 04, 2009
5:49 AM
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Paul, Your right on the money. That person either needs to do something about there training or get some dlrrerent stock.
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Scott
1635 posts
Feb 04, 2009
6:14 AM
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If thats the case they should have taken them that extra few miles and sold them to the feed store LOL
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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PLS
161 posts
Feb 04, 2009
7:31 AM
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I did that befor, when my birds Didn't Kit. The one that didn't kit will follow the other one home, and after that it start kitting.
Last Edited by on Feb 04, 2009 7:33 AM
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pigeon pete
110 posts
Feb 05, 2009
8:41 AM
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Years ago a Birmingham fancier Ron Adams, lived in a house that was surrounded by factories and a high rise block. The birds had trouble lifting at times as they had to avoid all the buildings as they rose up.
On Competition day he would take the birds to a nearby park and release them from a box.
The kit found it easier to gain altitiude from there and they soon appeared over Rons place at a decent height. I expect he had occasionally had trouble with birds landing 200ft up on the apartment block as well.
If you have lazy young birds not flying a decent time, it can help to get them fit, releasing them a little further away each time until they are flying the time you want, or a hell of a lot longer if they can't home too good.
Pete.
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JohnP
1 post
Feb 05, 2009
9:13 AM
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George,
I knew a Guy that took all of His Young Birds up the road like that every year. If He let Them out of the kit box, They would cork screw into the ground. Personally, I would cull the lot of Them.
But that's just Me.
John
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George R.
1331 posts
Feb 05, 2009
9:18 PM
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Maybe no one wants to tell us about this, maybe its a secret on making Birds roll better .
what do you Guys think?
Anyone know some who does this?
George
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Scott
1704 posts
Feb 09, 2009
4:38 PM
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George, well bred birds should not have to be put in a box and taken down the road to make fly .
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Feb 09, 2009 4:38 PM
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0221
77 posts
Feb 09, 2009
6:33 PM
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pigeon pete, I was At Ron Adams house and He did take them across the road to turn them out. He said because of those tall buildings behind His house. But when He released them they flew on top and landed anyway.
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JohnP
6 posts
Feb 10, 2009
6:23 AM
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I have heard of a Guy that does this for several months, after He starts them flying. The problem is the Birds cork screw to the ground and won't fly but a few minutes if He flyes Them out of the kit box. I wonder if this an inherited trait?
JohnP
Last Edited by on Feb 10, 2009 6:24 AM
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Scott
1708 posts
Feb 10, 2009
6:45 AM
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Young birds do alot of goofy things, I will get youmgster kits that land at 5 min, then I flag them up and they fly for another 30 , soon they quit landing at 5 min. it's just part of training.
But dealing with this for several months would be strange for sure and would be a real pain,what do they do once they cork screw down , land,go up,what ? .
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Feb 10, 2009 7:01 AM
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JohnP
7 posts
Feb 10, 2009
8:35 PM
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Scott,
They usually go back up, treetop height, then corkscrew, Over and over for 5 or 10 minutes, and then trap in. Also, this is the young kits every year.
JohnP
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JMUrbon
634 posts
Feb 11, 2009
8:01 PM
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A box is a training tool that some need and some do not. It is easy to say that so and so should junk his birds if he needs to box his birds up to get them in the air but the fact really is we will all do what is needed to get the young birds trained. Rollers are creatures of habbit. Good ones and bad ones. If a box is needed to instill the good habbits and avoid the bad ones then by all means,use the box. Joe
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Last Edited by on Feb 11, 2009 8:04 PM
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2473 posts
Feb 12, 2009
11:25 AM
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I'm with Joe on this one.you do what you got to do..some of us have to admit we did use a box at one time or two......I know I did many years ago..
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Ralph
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silent187
392 posts
Feb 12, 2009
11:31 AM
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me too and it woked...
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wishiwon2
142 posts
Feb 12, 2009
5:32 PM
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If I had culled every bird that needed a little help along the way some where, I'd have about a dozen rollers. These kind of helps should be the exceptions though and not the rule.
If you have to do it time and time again year after year, maybe you ought to look at a change. You have created your own dilema to some extent and now must deal with it how you see fit. You're the master, make birds that fit your system and standard. Dont make excuses for your birds or you'll have to live with the result...
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Jon
"had fun, wish i won 2"
If it were easy, everybody would do it ...
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George R.
1347 posts
Feb 12, 2009
5:37 PM
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Its probably just a Family trait. some guys like thier Birds to be different.
George
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fontanabound
71 posts
Feb 12, 2009
7:18 PM
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i will try that box trick tomorrow,got a few birds i think is gonna that dam box. i will try this box trick and release them up the street,and hopefully they kit with the rest of the flock. i was gonna sell them but well try this new trick i just learned. first!
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