rollerpigeon
13 posts
Jan 19, 2004
10:23 PM
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Experienced Fanciers,
How would you handle new birds to the loft as it relates to health matters and passing on disease? Do you think it is necessary to quarantine them or if they look healthy it is okay to put them together? If you quarantined them, how long is enough time?
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Freddie
4 posts
Feb 04, 2004
3:51 PM
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You should quarantine Them for 30 days. I brought a bird into my loft one time without a quarantine period. It cost me one of my best cocks.
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Steve S.
Guest
Feb 08, 2004
2:36 PM
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Hi,
It is most important to keep new birds at least 3 to 4 weeks seperated from your rollers when you bring in new birds to your loft.
It is good to put them on an antibiotic for 10 days to kill any E-coli and Samonella bacteria they carry.
I even use witch hazel on their feet to sanitize them after the 3 or 4 week perod of quaranteen.
Becareful of flyers whom always have sick birds because
It pays to watch who you let walk in your loft because some of the deadly diseases like Paratyphoid can be transfered by your feet.
Later
Steve S.
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Steve S.
Guest
Feb 08, 2004
2:38 PM
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Hi,
It is most important to keep new birds at least 3 to 4 weeks seperated from your rollers when you bring in new birds to your loft.
It is good to put them on an antibiotic for 10 days to kill any E-coli and Samonella bacteria they carry.
I even use witch hazel on their feet to sanitize them after the 3 or 4 week perod of quaranteen.
Becareful of flyers whom always have sick birds because
It pays to watch who you let walk in your loft because some of the deadly diseases like Paratyphoid can be transfered by your feet.
Later
Steve S.
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upcd
233 posts
Apr 15, 2006
1:58 AM
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I perfer 6 weeks. While doing vaccincines,worming and a 4 in 1. If they are ok, then there in.
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fhtfire
417 posts
Apr 15, 2006
10:43 AM
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I really truly feel that it all depends on who you get the birds from. If I know the fancier I really do not worry. If your birds are healthy and strong and vaccinated you should be AOK. Again, It is if you know the breeder. I really do not use meds very often. The last 4 or 5 years...I have never used a canker med and Only a handfull of times I have used meds...I only use them right before a comp. All the other times it is just ACV, electrolytes, good feed, vitamins. I do vaccinate every year for PMV. I have raised birds pigeons for a total of 15 years..as a kid and teen...man I moved birds from loft to loft so many times and never had a problem. I would even catch birds from barns etc and never had a problem..Of course I don't add birds to my loft very often right now. But again, maybe I have been lucky. But I just make sure that I know where the birds came from.
I think most people treat there birds to much...meds for this..meds for that..oh the bird just sneezed...I better medicate...I raised livestock for years as well as birds and if you over medicate...your birds can't fight off there shadow. Even when I had livestock...they did not get any meds until they showed "Obvious" signs and symptoms. I mean..tired...runny doo doo...High temp...then I medicated...same thing with birds...the bird would have to look sick..feathers puffed up...the shits...tired looking..weak...then I would seperate the bird and then medicate...other then that...let them fight off the colds and other germs..that is how they build up to fight off the bad stuff.
For example, I just received two breeder pairs from my good buddy Mort Emami. I picked up the birds at the post office..handled them real good...they were alert and strong in the hand..put them down..watched them for awhile..the cocks started cooing..looked real good and that is all she wrote. Plus, I know that mort takes good care of his birds and he will medicate before he ships. No problemo. Even Bill C. questioned me...Think about it ...What makes birds sick...poor loft conditions, over crowding, and lack of vitamins, minerals ect. If your birds are active, good food and get all the above..you should be fine. ONLY MEDICATE IF YOU HAVE BIRDS THAT ARE SHOWING OBVIOUS SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS.
I really think you should use caution if you have no idea the history of the birds or what loft they are coming from.
If the birds look a little funny at all..then I would isolate them. That is just me.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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upcd
234 posts
Apr 15, 2006
5:08 PM
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To me it doesn't matter who I got the birds from. It could be my very best friend. Birds under go stress when moved from one loft to another loft. Stress brings out diseases. Shots will not be given it the person gives me shot records.
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nicksiders
525 posts
Apr 15, 2006
9:43 PM
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I can never get over the feeling that many, many breeders are wanna be vets. All of the shots and vaccinations for this and that.....worming them and on and on. I don't do that and I don't have sick birds.......it is rare that I do and I isolate immediatly when it does happen and a lttle diluted antibiotic; vitamins, rest and a couple hugs of kisses. In two or three days the bird is good to go.
Geesh you guys..........did you do the same crap to your kids?
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upcd
236 posts
Apr 15, 2006
10:13 PM
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Yes, I do the same thing for the kids too. Do you compete or show?
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nicksiders
526 posts
Apr 15, 2006
10:21 PM
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Compete. For the kids or to the kids......LOL
Last Edited by nicksiders on Apr 15, 2006 10:22 PM
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katyroller
11 posts
Apr 16, 2006
6:02 AM
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I also got birds from Mort Emami and they were also given meds. before they were shipped. As stated above the birds were observed very closely and showed they were in excellent health so I did not quarantine them.
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J_Star
397 posts
Apr 17, 2006
4:58 AM
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I keep them separated for one week. Just enough to de-worm them and put them on antibiotic. Just like Paul said, it depends on where you get your birds from and their condition on arrival. Although, the bird might show no sign of illness, but it doesn't mean that it is not a carrier. Antibiotic might help in that department. After that, there is no need for medications until before breeding season. ACV and occassional vitamins are given with keeping the loft clean and keeping the brirds with minimal stress helps to sustain good health in the birds.
Jay
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Bill C
27 posts
Apr 17, 2006
9:41 PM
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I would just add something I think is important but does not always happen. That is birds in different lofts are exposed to different germs. When you birng in a new bird it may or may not have a germ in its body that your birds have not built up an immunity to and it exposes them or vise versa. Last year I got some squeakers from a good man who cares for his birds but something at my place got some of the squeakers sick and they died. I had them in different cages but the stress of moving and the germs I had did not hurt my own squeakers but the new ones were getting sick. I just let it run its course and the rest were fine. I use individule cages 4X4X4 and they all have thier own waterers. Anyway I think most of the time the birds would be fine if they were not sick in the first place but there is always a chance that I may have birds immunity built up to certain viruses and new birds may not have ever been exposed to them. That is when you can have a problem even with healthy birds. Bill
Last Edited by Bill C on Apr 17, 2006 9:46 PM
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