MANN
6 posts
Mar 04, 2009
11:30 AM
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If you had to start over again what line would you use
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yang501424
234 posts
Mar 04, 2009
12:18 PM
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Good Game Loft
Last Edited by on Mar 04, 2009 2:53 PM
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Pumpkin Man
57 posts
Mar 04, 2009
1:23 PM
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It depends on what you like/want? If you want performance birds that you could compete with study the NBRC bulletins and see who's consistently winning the flys and inquire about getting birds from them. If you are not real particular find a local flyer through NBRC and get some from them. They could be great but expect average. Keep in mind a great stereo and a junk stereo both play music. One is cheap one is expensive depends on what your expectations are. Even if you get birds from a comp guy though don't think they will automatically be great birds, maybe just better odds of getting better birds. Also flea market birds and high class birds cost the same to maintain. I spent 1,000.00 on my lab it is a perfomace bred retriever and it does what I want - which is go get my ducks/geese for me. People may say I'm crazy but I look at it as over the life of the dog 10+ years 1,000 is really $100.00 bucks a year. My buddy has a 250.00 lab that watches my lab get the ducks/geese we shoot. It's from show lines that doesn't have the build, desire, or drive of my dog. Still a fun pet as long as your standards are low. Decide what you really want first. He's stuck with a loving friend that in my opinion is worthless. I also have a loving friend that is a high drive bird getting machine.
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
3293 posts
Mar 04, 2009
1:33 PM
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There are a whole hell of a lot of good families out there. I would recommend that you visit as many lofts as you can and take up the one who impresses you most.
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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bigwilly
844 posts
Mar 04, 2009
1:34 PM
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Hey Mann. Where are you from? Is this the Mann that I think it is?
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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bigwilly
845 posts
Mar 04, 2009
1:41 PM
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Pumpkin took the words right out of my mouth. If I was to start all over again, I would first see who is placing at the top ten. Then I would go to as many flys as possible AND PICK ALL OF MY BIRDS FROM THE AIR. This will give you a better chance to obtain competition rollers. Know you are breeding something that you saw for yourself fly and you will not be guessing. Also remember that every line of birds have their fair share of culls. Trust me
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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MANN
8 posts
Mar 04, 2009
2:09 PM
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Big Willy Im from Compton but I stay in Oklahoma now
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fhtfire
1849 posts
Mar 04, 2009
2:24 PM
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You cant go wrong with Ruby Rollers....but again...there are a lot of good families out there.....
rock and ROLL
Paul
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donnie james
302 posts
Mar 04, 2009
9:25 PM
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their is a lot of good families out there since i'm utah i have with jason brown family and/or tom monson and/or jay starley family i'm pretty sure that tom monson and jay starley has the same family thats what i heard a few years ago i could be wrong or miss under stood ....................donny james
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wishiwon2
158 posts
Mar 04, 2009
11:50 PM
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I would pick a bloodline you have access to. Seldom will a single importation or purchase suffice. Also if you pick birds you can go and see, visit with the guy you got them from, see in person how he does things. Have him come see your birds once you get them going, give his opinion on what you're doing with them ... I think its wise to pick a strain that is from your area or an from an area with similar conditions. It doesnt take alot of change in latitude or elevation or weather to make a big difference ...
I would be interested in learning what Aubrey Thibodeaux has going on. Some others that interest me, Norwoods, Emberton, Ouelette, KGB, Szabatura, Mee, Kieth London, Urbon
Last Edited by on Mar 04, 2009 11:57 PM
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
3295 posts
Mar 05, 2009
6:42 AM
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MANN - your first name isn't Orange is it. I knew an Orange Mann when I lived in Southern Cal. His real name was Orange........good guy. He would be about 67 years old now.
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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MANN
11 posts
Mar 05, 2009
7:53 AM
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Nick Chad Baker is my real name I just go by MANN.
-Got to go gota feed the birds-
MANN
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gotspin7
2278 posts
Mar 05, 2009
7:08 PM
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I would ask Steven Smith and Abel Ibarra for some birds.
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Sal Ortiz
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JMUrbon
663 posts
Mar 05, 2009
8:02 PM
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Well Donny, Jason Browns birds are from Joe Borges and Jays birds are his own line over many years of breeding and they derrive from John Destout. Toms birds I am not possitive but I dont believe they are the same line as Starley. I have judged all 3 of their kits in the past along with many others and I would say that If I were to start over again I would be giving Jay Starley or Brad Winward a call. I liked the control I seen at Jays but I really liked the spin and the overal depth of Brads Birds. Joe
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A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
Last Edited by on Mar 05, 2009 8:24 PM
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3757
1198 posts
Mar 06, 2009
5:28 AM
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I would go to my friend Herb Sparkes.
Last Edited by on Mar 06, 2009 5:30 AM
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turkey buzzard
91 posts
Mar 06, 2009
6:11 AM
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What part of Oklahoma do you live in there are a few real good roller fliers in that area!!!!
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Scott
1793 posts
Mar 06, 2009
10:39 AM
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In all honesty I don't even want to think about it , it would be like your house burning down with no insurance and no job and having to start over again.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Mar 06, 2009 10:40 AM
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Square
647 posts
Mar 06, 2009
2:38 PM
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LOL Scott you hit it on the head!!!! First of all I would be sick, and discourged after so much time invested. But if that were the case I would start with one cock and three hens, Dosent really matter what family just as long as it has the charcter Im looking for, Keeping in mind that I could get a jump start by geting the birds from someone who has the same views as me, But no matter how much you pay you cant buy time invested into building a family of rollers. Reguardless of the family of birds, you are gonna have to spend time, that the hardest thing for me.
Square.
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
K.C.R.C
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kopetsa
56 posts
Mar 06, 2009
11:56 PM
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100000000000000% Neibel. Never held such amazing birds in the hand. I love them!
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winwardrollers
176 posts
Mar 08, 2009
9:00 AM
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The Problem with.. starting over.. is the time factor.
I see birds now and again that I would like to breed but thinking about breeding them three to five generations in... to began.. to see what you have.. limits it happening.
Now If... I had to start over ..I just don't want to think about it..Most of my family that I have now has come by accident/luck..
I would start over by line/in breeding and not crossbreeding that is for sure.
bwinward
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 8:40 PM
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CSRA
1755 posts
Mar 08, 2009
7:10 PM
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I would go to Sal and Abel
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roller_boi
40 posts
Mar 08, 2009
7:37 PM
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if i was to start over with birmies
if possible, i'd go with turners or higgins
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fireballroller_boi
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fhtfire
1857 posts
Mar 08, 2009
8:09 PM
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I would do exactly what I am doing now....I would get some Ruby Rollers and some Mort birds and breed the same way...I think I could recover ok....
rock and ROLL
Paul
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