tim_barnwell_1966
8 posts
Jan 29, 2004
1:45 AM
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I hope this ? dont sound to ignerant
this will be my first year breeding pigeons
i have one baldhead hen and would like to breed so that i stand a good chance of geting moor at this time i have a black cock bird with her do i stand a chance of producing moor baldheads this way if you know a better way im all ears
this is for performing birmingham rollers ......she is a black baldhead white flites white tail
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BLUE CORNER BANTAMS
& Pigeons
BIRMINGHAM ROLLERS:
yellow : almond : kites
baldheads : rec red
brown : black : blue bar
allso breeding : CONTINENTAL ROLLERS
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PIGEONBOB
1 post
Feb 04, 2004
5:14 AM
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I've bred Baldheads for nearly 40 years. I think I gave give you some tips. Your chances of getting a perfect baldhead are slim. Only if the cock bird has a lot of white in his backgroud can you hope to get close. What you can do is take the young that are closest to baldhead and start to breed them until you get better and better markings. The quicker path would be to get a good baldhead cock from someone. I found the tails were the hardest to get all white from crossing with a dark tailed bird.
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tim_barnwell_1966
13 posts
Feb 04, 2004
9:39 AM
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THANKS BOB i have a hen so i guess ill try starting with her
if i get my hands on a cock bird is baldhead to baldhead a good way to breed for baldheads
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BLUE CORNER BANTAMS
& Pigeons
BIRMINGHAM ROLLERS:
yellow : almond : kites
baldheads : rec red
brown : black : blue bar
allso breeding : CONTINENTAL ROLLERS
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Deerrack
1 post
Oct 04, 2007
4:07 AM
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Hello everyone, new to this board but been rasing rollers & homers for the past 40 plus years. About 20 years ago I obtained some Whitinghams from a guy north of Columbus Ohio and was wondering if anyone is rasing them any more.
I hear alot about ruby rollers and was just wondering if they are the same.
The birds I got from him were self yellows, Yellows with white flights and tails, dropped 40-50ft.
Deerrack
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J_Star
1184 posts
Oct 04, 2007
4:56 AM
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Welcome to the site the three of you and hope you guys enjoy your stay. I have a baldhead red bar w/f/t cock that was paired with blue bar beard w/f/t hen that throws baldheads often. Some times the marking are not that good and on occasions perfect marking. Also one time they threw an odd side for me.
For your sake, I would say pair her with a mate that has white flight and tail if you can not find another bald head. Also if the new mate exhibit a beard that would be great. That is just my opinion.
Jay
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Santandercol
1444 posts
Oct 04, 2007
6:28 AM
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Wow.Look at all you new guys!!Welcome to a fine website.
I have a black baldhead hen,w/f,w/t and she is mated to a blue barred w/f,w/t bearded cock.They throw alot of black bald cocks,b/b baldies and white sides.
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Kelly
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fhtfire
1111 posts
Oct 04, 2007
12:06 PM
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E-mail me...I have a Black baldhead cock..His uncle is a red baldhead...his photo is on the NBRC site....and its father is a Black baldhead....e-mail me...paulfullerton@sbcglobal.net
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Richard
83 posts
Oct 04, 2007
12:47 PM
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Deerrack
Do you have the name as there were several North of Columbus who sold rollers several years ago
Richard M
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classicpony
399 posts
Oct 04, 2007
7:19 PM
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66er,
I started with a few bald heads, then later got Hardesty birds, the bh end up running off or getting culled, I had 0 luck with them rolling much. My advice.... look for something better.
Jim
Illinis
@thebirdhouse
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rolldowndave
2 posts
Oct 04, 2007
7:56 PM
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The Guy in Ohio's name was Steve Roth. He lived not too far from me and had Whittinghams for years. He moved away a long time ago and the last I heard he was living in Texas
Dave H
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DeepSpinLofts
170 posts
Oct 04, 2007
9:05 PM
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Any Ohio folks out there know of a Harry Ashcraft that had Fireball Rollers in the Akron area?
He sent me a kit via Delta to SFO in the early 80's. Harry had some pretty deep birds. Had a pearl eyed tortoise shell hen that he sent me with a gold colored aluminum band. I flew her and was amazed at her 80ft rolls (dropped down roughly 3 telephone poles) in the air.
NOTE: She never bumped once and flew dot high. Only problem is that she didn't kit at all and bred me a couple of rolldowns. Not much use for a bird like that now, however she was fun to watch in those days as a back yard enthusiast.
....so
If any of you Ohio natives know if Harry Ashcraft is still alive and raising roller pigeons.... then please holla back.
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Oct 04, 2007 9:22 PM
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R.Fuentes
41 posts
Oct 05, 2007
8:35 PM
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Hi guy's here is a pic of two baldies I raised this year.
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R.Fuentes
42 posts
Oct 05, 2007
8:39 PM
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This is the Two Baldies parent (hen)
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R.Fuentes
43 posts
Oct 05, 2007
8:42 PM
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And this is the other parent(cock) red check w/flight. this was the combination that produced the two baldies pictured together above. R.Fuentes
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MILO
526 posts
Oct 05, 2007
9:14 PM
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That last picture is so blurry and looks like crap...but you know, even though I can't see him...I bet he looks awesome...LOL That I can see from the pic. Try and get another one that is clear.
c
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crystalpalace
109 posts
Oct 05, 2007
9:19 PM
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Fuentes the rollers you shared with us are nice looking birds. Those dark birds with the white markings on the head are called low bib baldheads. The West of England Tumbler baldheads are low bib and very attractive. I have rollers marked like yours. Thank you for letting us see your birds. Ray
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R.Fuentes
44 posts
Oct 05, 2007
9:34 PM
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Guy's my apologies for the last pic on the red check cock I will try and get a clear pic on him in the future, that was the only pic I have on him and I wanted to show the combination on how I was able to raise the two baldies and thanks Ray for clarifying the color pattern. Your friend R.Fuentes
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Bill from NJ
18 posts
Oct 06, 2007
5:38 PM
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Deerrack,
Rolldowndave was correct about the pigeons from Ohio you mentioned. They were from Steve Roth... Who got all of HIS Whittinghams from the loft of Charlie Hubbs.
Those birds you speak of were Charlie Hubbs Mottles.
A wonderful gentleman, and he is truely missed.
Regards,
Bill from NJ
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1812 posts
Jun 29, 2008
2:02 PM
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Nice Baldies..................
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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BLUETT1983
284 posts
Jun 29, 2008
2:09 PM
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NICE!
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Dominique Bluett's Birmingham Roller Loft
DTRC,NBRC.
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harrison
855 posts
Jun 07, 2009
10:44 AM
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hi Tim.
baldheads are fantastic looking birds and the once that I have are also fantastic rollers.
Last year I bread a few and this year I have bread 5.
Hope you got what you was trying to do?
here are some pictures hope you enjoy.
red 08 hen out of a mealy self cock and red white flytee hen.
HEN
COCK
The cock and hen above are pairents to this 09 mealy bar.
These blues are nestmates and are out of a slate pide cock and check bald hen.
The cock closest to the front of the picture is paired to his sister from a diffrent round(same pairents)
She is a check bold.
She is identical to here mam.
This is the mam the check bold closest to the screen
So this is my little familey of bald heads.
Hope you like them?
yours in roll harrison uk hull.
good look for 09..
Last Edited by on Jun 07, 2009 10:57 AM
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harrison
856 posts
Jun 07, 2009
11:09 AM
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09 lavender bald.
09 grizzle bald
09 bald/pide
nestmate to one above
09 blue bald
09 blue bald with check nestmate.
09 blue bald in nest
young balds with pairents.
not 100% sure of color.
09 bald/pide young with pairents
thanks and once again good look
yours in roll and sport harrison uk hull
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topnotch uk
566 posts
Jun 07, 2009
12:25 PM
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lol
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pat66
352 posts
Jun 07, 2009
3:14 PM
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Deepspin, Harry is alive and well!
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Pat
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Bill C
373 posts
Jun 07, 2009
5:23 PM
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You said this was for performing Birminghams, well can I tell you a short story. When I started out I only had one pure white roller in the kit
flying. It was my favorite. It only rolled a few times before a hawk was after it. I remember saying Please dont take my white bird, please
dont take my white bird. Well you live and learn. Today I still get the occational white bird from a few grizzles I have. But now when I fly my
kit I am saying " Please take the white bird, please take the white bird." In other words your favorite bird should be the one that performs well
when you fly them not if it is white or bald head. It makes a huge difference in your stock loft over time what you put into it. I have not done
everything by the book either but color was never an issue for me once I saw them perform in the air. They can be all blue check and I will
still have my favorite blue check that tears up the sky. Bill C
Last Edited by on Jun 07, 2009 5:28 PM
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Bill C
374 posts
Jun 07, 2009
6:01 PM
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Tim, It sounds like you have a lot of time and birds and that is fine. We all do what we like, right! But I would like to also quote Bill Pensom
on something here. The true Birmingham roller is so hard to breed more than any other pigeon because they have so many more faults in
them than other breeds. I think that will say a lot for the new guy. Its hard enough to get good rollers since they have the highest amount of
culls of any other pigeon breed. You figure it out! Good luck Bill C
Last Edited by on Jun 07, 2009 6:02 PM
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harrison
860 posts
Jun 08, 2009
8:56 AM
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I also dont breed for color.
I breed for ROLL and ROLL only if I get somthing that rolls nice and looks nice at the same time then thats a bonus.
The line of birds I am dealing with do consist of mainly white in color.
And these birds are 100% performing Birmingham Rollers.
I do have red checks and blue checks but alot of,Balds,pides,beards,grizz,oddside.
These are colors tat you are sure to find in every UK loft.
I dont no of or heard of one guy who has checks and bars and selfs only.
yours harrison uk hull.
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