tou2son
144 posts
Mar 20, 2009
1:10 PM
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I have a two hens that are skinny. They never put on any fat it seems. They always eat a full crop. But they never gain any weight. Is there anything for me to do? Should i be curing them for something? Are they sick? They seem to act fine just like the other birds just skinny. How do i put some meat on these birds? They get food, clean water and plenty of grits.
Help anyone...
Touson
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
3335 posts
Mar 20, 2009
1:16 PM
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Do you worm your birds?
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Nick Siders
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0221
110 posts
Mar 20, 2009
2:52 PM
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tou2son, Why do you want them to gain weight? Unless your going to eat them. If they fly the time and perform well they are okay. If there in your breeding coop, look at there droppings, If they look good don't worry. Some pigeons just don't put on weight. If they start going lite, and you'll see the difference worm them or send them to that big pigeon heaven in the sky.
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Pararoller
61 posts
Mar 20, 2009
3:09 PM
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if theyr just for breeding and doing fine there's no point u should deworm all ur birds every 6 months and i will give them penicilin which is goood for weight gain like 0221, said don't worry about it unless u gonna eat it or if the weight is affecting the bird
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
192 posts
Mar 20, 2009
4:32 PM
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tou2son- If you have not wormed your birds, I would start there. JDA
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jnyce
613 posts
Mar 20, 2009
5:34 PM
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sounds like worms to me
jerry t
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tou2son
145 posts
Mar 20, 2009
5:55 PM
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Well you guys,
The birds are breeders for one. If it was just the kit i wouldn't be too worry. They poop fine. The droppings are normal. But i do know that i haven't wormed them yet. I wanted to worm them but right now they are feeding their youngs, and i don't think that would be so smart..is it? i have both the pills and the powder for water. Which would you guys recommend for me to use?
p.s.
i'm pretty new to this so please be patient!! THANKS!!
touson
Last Edited by on Mar 20, 2009 5:57 PM
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0221
111 posts
Mar 20, 2009
7:23 PM
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tou2son,
Don't worm those birds, If they're in the breeding coop doing a good job. Be happy. If they earned they'er way to the breeding coop and don't get fat i'd be happy. I'm sure they will make nice breeders for you. If its not broke, don't fix it.
Last Edited by on Mar 20, 2009 7:25 PM
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tou2son
147 posts
Mar 20, 2009
7:56 PM
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Well i notice that the babies are smaller. Is that a good sign? or am i just freakin out..lol.
touson
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0221
114 posts
Mar 20, 2009
8:02 PM
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If they're being fed properly, Your just freaking out. Go in the house and play on the computer. Everything is okay. LOL Have fun..............
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tou2son
149 posts
Mar 23, 2009
7:05 PM
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Hey guys,
well today i was looking at one of the babies and it has sticky poop on it's behind. How would i cure this? What sickness is this called? Is it do to worms? The young loss weight. Anyone who experience this...i need HELP!!
tou2son
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
206 posts
Mar 23, 2009
7:13 PM
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tou2son- If I were you I would give them 5in1 it has worm meds in it plus all the other guards. 4in 1 might have worm meds? I am not sure. JDA
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Norm_Knox
301 posts
Mar 23, 2009
8:03 PM
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Hey Tou does that sticky poop look like a sore??? If it does it could be rectal canker!!!!!! Like JDA said 5in1 would be a VERY good thing to give them.
Norm
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N/A Loft
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roller_boi
45 posts
Mar 23, 2009
8:49 PM
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how do u worm your birds??
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fireballroller_boi
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tou2son
150 posts
Mar 23, 2009
9:20 PM
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I just wormed them. But at this point i might loose him. i hope i don't..but i guess nature got it's course. as of right now i don't have any 4in1 or 5in1. i've never even heard of that. What's it used for?
touson
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Brett01
22 posts
Mar 23, 2009
10:18 PM
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i would worm the bird with the pill type after the babies leave the nest & their on the nest round of eggs i uses the pill type so i no that all birds have been wormed. i may allso treat 4 canker check inside the mouth 4 yellow dischange .
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c robbo
474 posts
Mar 24, 2009
6:06 AM
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this happens when thay are runts from the off..any roller that is runty from the off KILL THEM..
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2760 posts
Mar 24, 2009
7:08 AM
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Tou in the future if you want always worm your birds one month before breeding them keep them separated. then after the month put them together to breed they should be clean out by then..I use Wormout Gel VetaFarm 100ml that Tony sells here and follow by pro vital pigeon breeders plus..you can worm them every 6 month..twice a year..also give some yogurt to bring back the friendly bacteria.
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miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
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tou2son
151 posts
Mar 24, 2009
3:20 PM
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Thanks guys,
ok for the next breeding i'll be sure to worm them out by the next set of babies. how would you feed yogert to pigeons?? that's a first one Ralph that i've heard of that. HOw do you get them to eat that?
touson
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sundance
1081 posts
Mar 24, 2009
2:39 PM
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Hey Touson,
After you worm them, or use any medication, follow up with some Pro Bios. It does the same thing as yogurt. It mixs with water also. You can order it when you get the Worm Out Gel, from Tony.
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
207 posts
Mar 24, 2009
3:19 PM
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tou2son-(5n1-paratyphoid-canker-coccidiosis-E.coli-and worms.)(4n1-paratyphoid-canker-coccidiosis-E.coli) you can get it here on site at Tonys.JDA
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tou2son
152 posts
Mar 24, 2009
4:25 PM
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Alright guys, Thanks a lot!! But just out of curiosity how do you feed yogurt to pigeons? mix it with their food? Just set it out for them to peck at it?
touson
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2771 posts
Mar 24, 2009
4:34 PM
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Tou take a tablespoon and mix it with water just put it right on the drinker where they drink..get that Gel from Tony I clean all my birds out with that..
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Ralph.
miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 4:35 PM
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tou2son
153 posts
Mar 24, 2009
4:40 PM
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ok Ralph,
so you would mix the yogert with water and feed it to your birds?
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2773 posts
Mar 24, 2009
4:43 PM
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oh yea many times they love it..its good to bring back the friendly bacteria while I am waiting for my pro bios to come.sometimes when I run out of it I use this.
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Ralph.
miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 4:45 PM
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tou2son
154 posts
Mar 24, 2009
4:45 PM
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ok...i still need to order my pro bios. lol..thanks Ralph i appreciate your help. say Ralph where are you from?
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tou2son
155 posts
Mar 24, 2009
4:53 PM
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OH WOW!! How long you been raising roller pigeons? you seem to have almost all the answer to sickness and all.
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bigwilly
905 posts
Mar 24, 2009
5:18 PM
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Give them 5 and 1 for one full week. 1 teaspoon per gallon. When the week is yp make SURE you follow it with some Pro Bios
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2775 posts
Mar 24, 2009
5:30 PM
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Tou..I only had rollers for ten years .I don't have all the answers but I read alot of books and talk to alot of flyers from around the world .and I have my own experience with the birds I had for years, the tipplers ,flights and Canadian highflyers..and I still have lots to learn before my days are over in this world with these rollers..but I like sharing my knowledge with the newbies ....always glad to be a help..
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Ralph.
miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 5:31 PM
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tou2son
156 posts
Mar 25, 2009
3:07 PM
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What is the 5 in 1 called? All i see on this site are 4 in 1 only.
touson
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
211 posts
Mar 25, 2009
3:41 PM
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tou2son call Tony or Email him and ask if he can get 5n1. If not 4n1 plus get worm gel.JDA
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tou2son
157 posts
Mar 25, 2009
6:42 PM
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oh ok thanks JDA! a lot of the guys are talkin about it and i'm here makin sure i didn't miss it on the product page..LOL..thanks!!
tou2son
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