Brett01
17 posts
Mar 22, 2009
12:50 AM
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how long before your birds come back into form ( 4 WEEKS
in lockdown) been back flying for 2 days birds r all over the sky & siting around still feeding the same as before thanks Brett
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Windjammer Loft
755 posts
Mar 22, 2009
6:14 AM
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I have to same question. Only my birds were locked down for 3 months. All are 08 banded.
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Mar 22, 2009 6:15 AM
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maxspin
356 posts
Mar 22, 2009
6:36 AM
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Put them on diet before letting them out the first time. Fat birds are lazy and easy prey for the BOP.
I put them on straight wheat and limited diet for a week before letting them out for the first time after the 5 month Winter lockdown.
Plan your first release day and give no food or minimal food the day before. You want them hungry. They will be lazy the first few times out, and you do not want them developing bad habits of sitting in the trees.
It will take weeks to get them back where they were. Some birds just do not fly right again. They are culls in today's world of lockdown. You do not want to pass this traits on.
Good luck with them
Keith Maxwell
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sundance
1079 posts
Mar 22, 2009
8:03 AM
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I`m going through the same thing here, only worse. I have breeders that havent shown me what I want the last couple years and I`m also re-flying them this year. I have birds in 2 kitboxs that are banded 04,05,06,07, and 08. Mostly 08 birds, but a few of each other years.
I fed them straight milo for 3 days then a mix, all at about 2/3 ration for 2 weeks. Left them no feed the day before the first fly, and was surprised they all kitted fairly well. I havent lost any ,yet.
They are starting to show some roll. Flown every day for over a week now. Rested them first time yesterday and will fly again today. Hoping to see something better.
Now, I`ll go to straight wheet on rest days and mix on the fly days. I`ll have to see if 1 rest day works better or 2.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
Last Edited by on Mar 22, 2009 8:04 AM
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Brett01
18 posts
Mar 22, 2009
12:12 PM
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i had them on straight wheat 6 day a week & 5o/50 mix on sunday 50/wheat & 50 mix the same as before i cut the feed down to half feed 2day before i let them out do i start 2 flag them up
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maxspin
357 posts
Mar 22, 2009
12:19 PM
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Two days is not much time to get back in shape.
I always expect that they at least take to the air. I try to be patient with them as far as coming down early.
I prefer to crate them up and make them fly half a block to a block as apposed to flagging. I have trained some to sit in the tree rather than the loft top.
I usually have a couple that just become lazy after a lock down. To me they are culls. I can't have them teaching the rest of the kit bad habits.
Keith
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Newbie 08
150 posts
Mar 22, 2009
12:23 PM
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Spring is here and my birds have been locked down for 4 months. I'm here is califoria and just got back in the hobby last August. I know we will always having problems with BOP but is it safe to say now is the time to fly and start getting the birds back in training? I have a few young that are around 10 weeks old that I'd love to start training yet I would hate to losse them right now to the BOP. Anyone in Northern California Solano county area that can give me a yea or nea to let them out?
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2742 posts
Mar 22, 2009
3:33 PM
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Keith good post..
Be patient with your birds if they were in lock down for a while, if they were train right before lock down they will be right back to where you had them with time.. some will not roll like they use to .you will see that those are the one with more control and when feeling like letting go they will. the one with less control they will roll the same day or next.but remember don't look for good roll they are feeling them self out again getting a fill of things again. in about a week or so they should start getting some wind back and kitting and feeling good about being out .now it can take longer for birds who have been lock down in a kitbox with no exercise,see mines get to fly around the kit pen in circles every now and then as I chase them for an exercise..plus I never let them get fat when resting so they are semi semi in shape..so when they out and about they are concentrating on the brain part like kitting and rolling.just let them out the first day on their own see who wants to fly, now you can see who really likes the sky.the next day when they come down put a bath pen out let them get their kinks out .they be back to where they were in no time..if after you see they just don't wanna work for you open the kitbox throw in a hat or balloon they be out in the sky before you know it.. now they will soon realize that you not just the feed master from all these weeks feeding them through lock down but that you are the kitmaster .and they must get out and kit..have fun....----------
Ralph.
miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
Last Edited by on Mar 23, 2009 12:11 PM
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gotspin7
2337 posts
Mar 22, 2009
8:00 PM
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Brett, I just started flying my birds on Friday and they have been on lock down since November. I have the most of them back to what they were since they were locked down (I am actually very surprised)and I have about 10 that are having issues I think they are just like me a little too fat!..lol.. Ok, let's get serious it takes them about 2 weeks to get it going again and you will also have some that are just worthless after lock down.
Maxspin, great post bro! Right on...
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Sal Ortiz
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Brett01
19 posts
Mar 23, 2009
4:07 AM
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had them out again 2day had 10 in the air for between 15 to 40 min get better. kitting was poor happy with fly time & traping bar the 2 siting in the tree will be taking them a few block away 2 fly home thanks all for your input Brett
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2756 posts
Mar 23, 2009
12:19 PM
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That good to hear Brett soon they be kitting again.sometime if I have two that bank anywhere I check to see if their nest mates because I notice they hang together like hey hommie what you doing or you going to that tree wait I go with you..so I throw that one out alone the next fly with the team with out feed. but keep his buddy in, then when I have him in check I switch him ..then both goes out with the whole team .I know alot of folks don't go through this trouble but believe me its no trouble for me I love training in every way I can when they young but most important keep notes . good luck..
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P.S. Sal my bro get on a diet ..lol..
Ralph.
miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 7:18 AM
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Brett01
21 posts
Mar 23, 2009
9:55 PM
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thank Ralph will do. it looks likes they may have pair up.
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fransrollers
1 post
Mar 23, 2009
10:12 PM
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hey brett have you pickeddup your ruby rollers from tough if so how are they
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spanky
807 posts
Mar 24, 2009
7:28 PM
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MY BIRDS WERE ON LOCK DOWN SINCE NOV. 4th I BEEN FLYING FOR ABOUT 10 DAY'S ONLY 1 BIRD DOES NOT TRAP THE REST THEY KNOW THE PROGRAM.
SPANKY
SGVS
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