LittleJohn
52 posts
Mar 30, 2009
4:18 AM
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So I am thinking about changing the food to just wheat and milo for my kit birds, they are not so fond of the peas and seem to toss them on the floor anyway. I have also read that some guys use wheat and barley instead of the milo...my question is, what do most prefer? I know each family is different in what they do well on, but I am looking for a starting point here. Thanks
LittleJohn
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Ty Coleman
609 posts
Mar 30, 2009
4:48 AM
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You can feed the grains seperate. Feed your peas, then the wheat, and then the milo. I have found that all of my birds love the milo but you have to watch there intake on it. In my family of birds barley is a waste of money. Weather conditions play a big roll in what you need to be feeding also. I suggest to take notes on the performance of the birds on what feed mix you have them on and the weather conditions every day. When you change feed do it slow also as a big change can realy screw them up. It normaly take about 3 days for the change of feed to show up in the performance of my birds so keep that in mind when you are changing, it's not like turning on a light switch. Wheat is the base of my mix it is always 50% or better of my mix. Milo plays into the frequency of my birds but to much of it will kill there quality so I adjust the balance out with the peas which will put a nice roll back together, however to much peas create a strong bird quick. With family's that are nown for overfly's I would be scared to use many peas, as they will cause them to elevate and fly for hours. Alot of people use barley to slow the wing beat and help with frequency but in my family it stripped their nutrition to quick and made them unstable so I will never feed a grain of it again. Birds have their favorite grains to eat so if you feed your grain seperate they all have the same intake of grain, not one that ate all wheat,or milo, or peas. Hope this helps.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
Last Edited by on Mar 30, 2009 4:50 AM
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david33
53 posts
Mar 30, 2009
4:51 AM
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70/wheat 30 milo conditioner once a week great for kit birds good luck flyingscotsman
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gotspin7
2353 posts
Mar 30, 2009
5:34 AM
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LittleJohn, your best bet is to ask the person you got your birds from as he knows what is best for that particular family of birds, feeding also varies with age of the birds (young birds require more protein, older birds don't require as much) and I also agree with TY, as weather plays a big roll in the roll...LOL... Now in my family of birds I will only feed wheat and milo to get them ready for a fly, if I am just flying I feed a 14% pigeon mix. Good luck!
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Sal Ortiz
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winwardrollers
214 posts
Mar 30, 2009
7:34 AM
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LittleJohn
I like to feed grains seperate like Ty stated above.
If Your birds are tossing the Peas around..sounds like they are not very hungry.
bwinward
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harrison
565 posts
Mar 30, 2009
11:15 AM
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Hi Little John.
Over here in the UK nearly all the guys fly there kit birds on (DEPURETIVE) Just a posh name for wheat and barley.
I find my kit birds do realy good on this mix and they dont have any problems eating it.
I was told buy a verry good flyer in the UK to switch to this food as I had my birds on all the peas and maize ect...
I noticed alot of diffrence in my birds when I put them on it.
Also it seemd to make my birds roll that little bit more.
The birds digest this mix realy fast so you can let your young out in the morning give them half a tin of the mix.
Let them out again at around 4pm and then give them a full bean tin o so worth.
Good look and I hope you get your birds flying on the right track.
Yours in roll harrison uk
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LittleJohn
53 posts
Mar 30, 2009
12:53 PM
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thanks for the help guys
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donnie james
357 posts
Mar 30, 2009
4:16 PM
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hay john,i wrote an article a few years back and put in the nbrc and it was on the % of the grains like protein and fat and carbohydrates and if you want a copy of give a private email at mrprc1@yahoo.com with your name and mailing address...........donny james
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Ty Coleman
610 posts
Mar 30, 2009
5:57 PM
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One other thing to consider is red or white wheat and the location it was grown. The protein levels are all over the board depending on area. Our local white wheat tested at 11%.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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donnie james
360 posts
Mar 30, 2009
8:21 PM
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if you a copy of the % on the grains in need you mailing address i don't the article on my computer yet i have set done and put it on there i done article an old computer ...................donny james
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Bill C
309 posts
Mar 30, 2009
10:10 PM
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I agree with bwinward, If they pick up a grain (pea) and drop it they are not hungry anymore. I never have a problem with birds eating anything. Especially peas. They will eat what ever I put in there as long as I am not over feeding them. I have even given my kit birds wheat,milo,barley, mix and alfalfa pellets. I have been mixing different stuff from time to time with mix grain and they eat everything.
My brother gave me a huge bad of sun flower seeds and they ate that mixed with pigeon mix during the winter when I was not flying them.
Sometimes the first day of alfalfa they will leave some but the next time they eat all the grain and then all the alfalfa too because they are hungry enough. I use the alfalfa in the summer because it has salt in it for rabbits and they dont need to pig out on grit when the weather gets hot.
I am not recommending feeding anything that I do, just that if you get them flying for 30 to 45 minutes they should be eating peas or anything you feed them. Bill C
Last Edited by on Mar 30, 2009 10:14 PM
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