mikea
3 posts
Mar 31, 2009
8:07 AM
|
i am having a real hard time breaking my birds of
this pattern mike
|
winwardrollers
217 posts
Mar 31, 2009
10:41 AM
|
I'm guessing it is a S pattern.
Change feed, change leaders in the kit.
Do you fly in the wind?
bwinward
|
Velo99
2074 posts
Mar 31, 2009
11:28 AM
|
Mike,
Weaken them a little with your feed. step two,fly half of them at a time and see who is the
culprit leading them and remove him. If that doesnt work keep them in for two weeks.
See if there are any birds trying to turn the kit for the figure eight. The rest are flying thru the turn just like flying thru a break. If you get them slowed down they might snap out of it.
When they turn they should break or at least try. Thats where the men are seperated from the boys. The guys that put in the time and watch thier birds the whole time they are up know when and where thier kit breaks. if something disturbs that pattern,its your job as a fancier to find what caused the deviation. Weather,wind,flock of robins,a cooper,too much feed,not enough feed, Did a trigger bird or a leader bird get wing slapped during a break? These are but a few of the million things that could affect a single break or the fly pattern on a single run. Multiply this by 20 birds and 20 breaks then the fun starts.
g/l
yits
----------
V99
blue sky single beat
in cadance performing now
earth beckons the winged
drawn breath is let quickly forth
orchestral movement follows
___ ~_____
\__\_/-|_| \__\____
/()_)__14___()_)\__\
|
J_Star
1945 posts
Mar 31, 2009
11:54 AM
|
You are flying a stiff amongst your kit. Break your kit in half and fly separatly. Identify the half that still do the S patern fly. Break that into a half and fly them separately and you will find the problem bird.
Jay
|
mikea
4 posts
Mar 31, 2009
4:20 PM
|
i have cut the feed, cut the protein ,broke them down
in groups of four or five.they have been doing this for
six months or more and i have done all i know .i have pulled out my hair griped cussed and all they did was laugh at the hand that feeds them
|
toronto15
136 posts
Mar 31, 2009
4:32 PM
|
Mikea, have you tried flying all cocks and hens separately?Glen.
|
gotspin7
2355 posts
Mar 31, 2009
5:24 PM
|
Mike, I would take them down a block or two and then release them all together. If that does not work I would start flying them twice or three times a day. Good luck bro...
----------
Sal Ortiz
|
mikea
6 posts
Mar 31, 2009
6:13 PM
|
sal they are getting better and so is the big day
|
mikea
7 posts
Mar 31, 2009
6:28 PM
|
sal what we talked about the other day is working
just hpoe i got enough time to break this habit
before the big fly been working hard at it
|
wishiwon2
172 posts
Apr 01, 2009
3:35 PM
|
Mike, if they have been flying that way for 6 months or more, the entire team has made poor pattern a habit. It will be extremely difficult to break them from this. The best may be to dissolve the team and incorporate it into other teams a few birds at a time. Be on gaurd though as they may influence the existing team to fly with the same poor pattern habit.
----------
Jon
"had fun, wish i won 2"
If it were easy, everybody would do it ...
|
speedball
339 posts
Apr 01, 2009
4:04 PM
|
bob brown used to call them snakes. once they start that malarky they wont come out of it. some family's have this fixed well in!
|
mikea
8 posts
Apr 01, 2009
6:02 PM
|
i will win them over sooner or later i think i.caused the problem. thanks for the advice.
mike
|
nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
3364 posts
Apr 01, 2009
6:14 PM
|
The "S" pattern usually can be controlled by cutting back on protien or if you are feeding just wheat/milo mixture cut back on the wheat. Sal (post 2355) has a system I use now and then that sometimes works.
----------
Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
|
wishiwon2
174 posts
Apr 02, 2009
9:58 PM
|
You probably will win, if that is what your mind is set on. But at what cost? I wish you luck in your effort.
----------
Jon
"had fun, wish i won 2"
If it were easy, everybody would do it ...
|
speedball
346 posts
Apr 03, 2009
4:48 PM
|
stop flying them on windy or breezy days period. fly them on flat humid days. the wind helps them with the twisting and turning.
|
PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2816 posts
Apr 03, 2009
7:07 PM
|
I agree with speedball windy days will definitely make them do this..
----------
Ralph.
miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
|
mikea
9 posts
Apr 04, 2009
12:58 PM
|
i have them flying alot better. but now the winds blowing
alot have not flown them .what should i do to keep them
from getting to strong or light.
mike
|