Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
3259 posts
Apr 24, 2009
5:49 AM
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To All: As some of you may have noticed, I am in the process of cleaning up the site of individuals who don't give a flip and choose to bring personal vendettas here or generally spoil the experience for other visitors.
Apparently it is going to be an ongoing battle on my part. But, I could use all your help to weed out individuals who are ruining things for many others and who don't give a flip about you or the site.
In the future, I would be grateful if you would please report to me any posts and/or individuals you feel are intentionally ignoring the posting policy with the intent to do harm to others or this site.
If everyone will play a small part, as several have, we can get back to All Roller Talk. Thank You!
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Scott
2106 posts
Apr 24, 2009
5:54 AM
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Testing, test,test
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 24, 2009 5:57 AM
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bman
659 posts
Apr 24, 2009
7:19 AM
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Worried Scott?? lol
P.S. your advice worked great holding the birds down.
Thanks
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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sundance
1100 posts
Apr 24, 2009
8:16 AM
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While unfortunate, I have found over the last few years, to be involved in anything where competition is involved, a thick skin becomes a necessity. Not everyone is going to be best friends and run around patting each other on the bum, like a basketball team.
I actually enjoyed the forum as an open expression of individual ideas and thoughts, more so than say a bunch of post that are only geared toward "give me a call" " hit me up on my e-mail" etc...
I do however agree that personal attacks are best left, well, personal. Call the person, talk to them face to face, or keep it to yourself.
There is a fine line on opinions though. If my birds look like crap, I`ve grown to the point where I`d rather have someone with the stones to tell me whats wrong with them rather than just " hey, nice looking bird". It does me or the hobby no good to cast false observations merely out of fear of being banned from a site. If I got a color, expression, size, feathering or any other issue with my birds, speak up. Give me a good reason for your " opinion", and I`ll take it as that. Your opinion.
Again, just my 2 cents, I enjoyed and probably learned more from reading the posts here when it was a little more open. It took me a while to understand and learn from some of the members, and some who are no longer here, but I finally got it. I hate to see any of them go elsewhere, as this was the best site of its kind.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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katyroller
381 posts
Apr 24, 2009
9:24 AM
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Butch, I can agree with your post. If I solicit opinions about something I want and expect to get honest opinions along with some background behind that opinion. If you ask about my experience with a certain family, I'm going to tell you my experience good or bad. What I won't do is make a blanket statement that anyone who raises the family is raising @#&^ and needs to cull all their birds and get some REAL Rollers because the guy that started the family crossed breed X into them and was a feather merchant that was a backyard flier, blah blah blah blah. Peace,
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Alohazona
614 posts
Apr 24, 2009
9:44 AM
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Well said Tony,
I know alot of the guys here are not like that face to face.
I look forward to learning more about rollers...Aloha,Todd
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
966 posts
Apr 24, 2009
10:32 AM
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Hey All and Tony, It's simply a matter of respect. Differing opinions often bring out the best and worst when we are passionate about a subject. That however does not give us licence to abuse anyone. A different point of view should be welcome. Make your case, just do it with respect.
Thom
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
3260 posts
Apr 24, 2009
10:57 AM
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Thom, well said! A few guys just don't get it. They think free speech allows them to come on a private site and post whatever they want. I have been through that and it brings its own grief. To those who let anything go on their sites means they have nothing to lose. Thereby, in my book, what they have nothing of real substance to offer.
What's funny is I have been on all sides of the ball (LOL inside and outside) and I get accused of letting too much go on the site (and people leave) then I crack down and get called a dictator (and some people leave). If the numbers are smaller, then the quality is better.
Like Ricky Nelson says in a song, ...ya can't please everyone so you got to please yourself...
I look at what I am doing for the long haul-the next 20 to 30 years, not trying to build cheap traffic by letting people say or post anything they want. I will not allow people to abuse the site, me or those who value it. If that loses people, then they don't belong here. Period.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Apr 24, 2009 10:58 AM
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
548 posts
Apr 24, 2009
11:00 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
I agree if it does not get way out of haaand..It is actually quite entertaining most of the time..I would really miss Scott's nit picking...
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
3262 posts
Apr 24, 2009
11:10 AM
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For those who don't know, Scott was once banned for almost a year. He is now a master flyer and has much to teach anyone willing to listen. Scott has been on this site from almost day 1. He has been through every change and hiccup on this site since 2004 and never once can I remember him bitching at me, oh yeah, once, and it got him banned, but look, here he is. LOL
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Apr 24, 2009 11:11 AM
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bob
80 posts
Apr 24, 2009
1:12 PM
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Hi Tony i agree with your actions as i find some of the postings sickening, i would like to say that i personally look for Scots postings as i find them very informative & yes educational. Keep up the good work & KICK ass where you have to. yours in the sport Bob in Ontario
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2894 posts
Apr 24, 2009
2:06 PM
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Tony I'm with you all the way..
I remember Scott being ban I think he thought that he couldn't get in all that time because he forgot his password..lol....----------
Ralph.
The greatest use of your life is so you live your life so that the use of your life will outlive your life, In other words what you going to leave behind legacy or Dust....
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Electric-man
2308 posts
Apr 24, 2009
2:57 PM
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Who's Scott?
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Val
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Velo99
2102 posts
Apr 24, 2009
2:59 PM
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I look forward to Scotts posts. He usually tempers his posts with a little levity. His sarcastic responses usually make me laugh. As mentioned he is a very knowlegable fellow and is good for the sport. I guess we actually have the best of both ends of the pendulum with Scott and Cliff as active members of this site.
I know for a fact they both were responsible for the foundation of the WTRC and competetion regions in both the WC and the NBRC. Thier guidance led me to aquire the knowledge to get the club started as a means to have our regions recognized.
To qoute another long time pigeon man and returnee to the site,Brian McCormick.
"Its just frikking pigeons man!"
Take what is said with a grain of salt and dont let the testosterone level get too high. Youll be alright.
thanks T
yits
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V99
blue sky single beat
in cadance performing now
earth beckons the winged
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orchestral movement follows
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
393 posts
Apr 24, 2009
3:06 PM
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Well said Kenny. Scott is a friend, we talk periodically on the phone. Don't always agree but I know he has the best interest of the hobby in mind when he offers something.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
Last Edited by on Apr 24, 2009 3:08 PM
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Hector Coya
474 posts
Apr 24, 2009
3:49 PM
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I vote we keep Scott,He can be a pain sometimes,Especialy when it comes to color or crest,but hes a real nice guy in person.
Hector Coya-SGVS
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The more i know mankind,the more i love my Dog,
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jnyce
690 posts
Apr 24, 2009
3:56 PM
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a pain sometimes hector??? how about all the time...lol but you got to love it his passion for the hobby is plain to see !!!!!
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jerry t
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Alohazona
615 posts
Apr 24, 2009
4:16 PM
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Hector,I second the vote,Scott's our mascot.Especially when he's fed'up and conditioned right!LOL.....Aloha,Todd
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AK-Roller Loft
123 posts
Apr 24, 2009
4:42 PM
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Tony Keep up the good work, you have my support!
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Ak~Roller
Last Edited by on Apr 24, 2009 4:49 PM
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toughrollers
119 posts
Apr 24, 2009
4:53 PM
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this is the best site. we all learn from each other,im with you tony from. ozie land
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Toughrollers--Lofts
Ralph
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toronto15
169 posts
Apr 24, 2009
5:32 PM
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I don,t believe the post is directed at Scott. He,s a master flyer that takes the time to make this Roller thing a little easier to understand.This site is without a doubt,the best there is,regarding Birmingham Rollers and pigeons in general.Thanks Tony.Glen.
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