Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
558 posts
Apr 24, 2009
8:55 PM
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Scott,
Are you in bed already? I will be checking here frequently tomorrow for the play by plays...Good luck to all you guys!
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
562 posts
Apr 25, 2009
9:06 AM
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Any word yet?
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
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Scott
2114 posts
Apr 25, 2009
6:59 PM
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I'm heading to Mexico to become a Hermit in a cave LOL
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
563 posts
Apr 25, 2009
7:18 PM
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Hey Scott, Its just a game..did anyone get any decent scores?
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
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Ty Coleman
643 posts
Apr 25, 2009
7:53 PM
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Hartman exposing your color birds jyxned you didnt it, sorry had to pick a little. How bad was it ?
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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sundance
1105 posts
Apr 26, 2009
11:49 AM
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Scott, Mexico might be a bad idea right now , but there are some nice caves in Georgia. Just keep a keen ear peeled for banjo music.LOL
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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Scott
2115 posts
Apr 26, 2009
1:24 PM
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Well done here, I spit the birds out as the sun cracked, up they went, and up and up and up and that was all she wrote,if that wasn't enough they then made me give up my grand Pubha hat, if you like being humbled this is the game for it LOL
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 26, 2009 1:34 PM
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Ty Coleman
645 posts
Apr 26, 2009
1:50 PM
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Scott, you'll get your hat back in the NBRC 20 bird. I still got faith in ya !
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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sundance
1106 posts
Apr 26, 2009
6:19 PM
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Did they score at all ? Damn, it sure sounded like you had your game plan worked out. Sorry to hear this. But so true. Just when you think...yep the judge shows up and they make you feel like moving to a cave. Do you know of any of the other flyers scores yet?
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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Scott
2116 posts
Apr 26, 2009
6:43 PM
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Butch , they got like 79 points or so for 3rd I think, they werent stiff , just went too high to judge.
Brent Timius won with 205 which was good to see, the fact is if you qualify it is just one more chance to look silly LOL .
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 26, 2009 6:46 PM
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BA Rollers
225 posts
Apr 26, 2009
7:25 PM
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that's what he gets for making me sit in this airport for hours waiting for a late flight :) lol
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Scott
2117 posts
Apr 26, 2009
7:40 PM
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No, "that" is what you get Bozo LOL
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
566 posts
Apr 27, 2009
10:55 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Hey Scott send that kit up here and I will give them a second chance for you, it does not look as though I will have enough birds for my second kit..
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JBow
66 posts
Apr 27, 2009
11:09 AM
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Scott. they went up high so they could see what they were doing. Out at the crack of dawn hell it was still kinda dark there. A kit of dark chks out in the dark they must have been running in to each other. lol Well good luck next time Scott. Jim PS Scott I hope your Mom is far away from all thats going on in Mexico
Last Edited by on Apr 27, 2009 11:22 AM
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DeepSpinLofts
1372 posts
Apr 27, 2009
11:33 AM
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The Government says:
1) No kissing until the Human-Swine flu virus outbreak is under control.
2) Don't travel to Mexico (unless absolutely neccessary).
3) Wash your hands thoroughly with soap or use an alcohol based hand gel cleanser.
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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DeepSpinLofts
1373 posts
Apr 27, 2009
3:17 PM
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HEALTH & SAFETY UPDATE:
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NOTE: Mexico has shut down all of their schools nationwide and nearly 200 people have died in the nation from the Human-Swine flu outbreak so far. Very terrible situation in Mexico City.
Link provided below with more information on Human-Swine flu.
World Health Organization has raised its pandemic alert for swine flu by one level to phase 4, two steps short of declaring a full-blown pandemic.
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Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
1904 posts
Apr 29, 2009
6:17 AM
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Tough break, Scott....Sounds like Clay's kind of problems. I'll have the reverse....trying to get them up if this heat sticks around...it's been 88-90 degrees. They have been flying at a good height an doin' the time during training in the early mornings. They're lookin' good if I don't shoot myself in the foot or get weird weather blowin' in.
Cliff
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2910 posts
Apr 29, 2009
6:58 AM
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Scott what cause the birds to fly so high,did you feed them too much or the weather.would you say its bad management or bad luck?
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Ralph.
The greatest use of your life is so you live your life so that the use of your life will outlive your life, In other words what you going to leave behind legacy or Dust....
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Scott
2119 posts
Apr 29, 2009
6:59 AM
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Good luck Cliff , I think I know what happened on this one,hard to say, it is what it is.
Any more though I see it as a win win situation as a few birds went into stock.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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JBow
71 posts
Apr 29, 2009
11:46 AM
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Scott, Cliff We can prep and do everything that we think is right but come fly day it can turn and bite us in the arse. Its the challange to get things right that keeps us going i think. Here in kansas for the month of april so far i've been able to fly as of today 8 times the wind has been relentless and so has the bops. I've lost 6 birds out of my a and b team this month alone. I lost 4 birds in late March. Doesn't look good here. Jim Bowen
Last Edited by on Apr 30, 2009 9:14 PM
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Scott
2120 posts
Apr 29, 2009
7:33 PM
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Ralph, I "think" that two things were at play here, one was lift and the other was a hint of red cell, bottom line is they were mismanaged.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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macsrollers
56 posts
Apr 29, 2009
10:00 PM
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Hi Scott. Not sure what birds you are working out of but sounds like from some previous posts you are working out of the so called hard core old Pensom blood lines, like I have from Doug and Don Ouellette. Doug told me from the start that flying old bird kits is a challenge. Keeping them down has been a big one for me. Especially this time of year here in Vegas with light air and updrafts that old birds can easily ride without effort. Each April seems like the same old story, trying to keep the birds down. My old bird team is from 2 years old to 7 year old birds and hard to manage. Have tried the Don Ouellette school of thought that if they fly too high then don't give them anything until they stop doing so. A few others have told me that to keep them fat and the weight keeps them down. I have had more success with giving them nothing until they stay at a managable height. But cutting them back to 30 - 40 minutes fly time also seems to cut their performance considerably. I know there is a fine line between having them cut back too much on fly day vs. flying too high. I have hit that fine line leading up to flys but only once have I hit it on fly day, and then the falcon spoiled that outcome! Do you experince more problems with high flying in Spring then the rest of the year? I experience in late Spring and then to a lesser extent in October here as those times of year have quick changes in temperature one way or the other soon after the sun comes up. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. I feel insane each Spring when I experience high flying again. Though I have tried some different things but apperantly not enough of a change as here it is 2 days from our fly and my birds aren't down where I want them to be. I've lost 6 birds from my #1 team leading up to this fly, 2 to falcons and I blame myself for overflying the others. 3 exceptional birds gone. We pay a high price for our mistakes in this hobby. I agree with your statement that the birds were mismanaged if they skied out, especially on fly day where we have aimed towards peak performance specifically. I always take the blame instead of blame the birds, though sometimes weather and BOP's can take some of the blame as well. Much easier to fly young birds then old birds, but I love the challenge of flying a great team of experienced old birds that can really show their stuff if given the right opportunity. Can be very frustrating for a little gratification, but it is worth it to me. Best of luck on the next opportunity to compete. Just wanted to share my experiences as this subject definitley hits home with me! Sincerely, Don M.
Mac's Rollers Las Vegas Roller Club
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
1908 posts
Apr 30, 2009
12:07 PM
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Scott,
How far out did you use the red cell? The jury is still out, as far as I am concerned, on using that stuff before competition. Anyway, my hat's off to you for taking responsibility for your results. It's much easier for some guys to blame the RD, the schedule, the judge, etc. instead of admitting that we just mismanaged them. Except for BOP and severe weather like Jim B is dealing with, the results we get are of our own producing.
Cliff
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Scott
2123 posts
Apr 30, 2009
4:15 PM
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Don, these birds probably go back the same way , and yes as old birds they are a major pain in the ass,but when all is right I have never seen anything better.
Spring for me is also bad, my best fly time is late Fall and Winter here as I don't have the lift.
I live in the foothills of the Sierra Nevadas and there is a lot of lift and instability,to top it off thunder bummpers just get backed up off the Sierras and you get different layers going different ways,yea lots of fun.
For me the best control comes from truely working the yo-yo system which is what it was designed for,also I want to keep wt on them.
I had good control on these birds and didn't need to do anything to these birds, just for giggles though I just tinted the water with red cell on thurs and didn't change out on Friday, it cost me and it was a bonehead move.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 30, 2009 4:16 PM
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
395 posts
Apr 30, 2009
5:59 PM
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Scott,
Explain red cell?
Jim Bowman is right about the weather here for past two months. Like him I have had problems with the wx and BOP but birds are fighting their way thru it. And to make matters worse I spent the last 3 days in the hospital with a cardiac problem so they were way overfed by the time I got home. Hopefully, I will have them ready to go next Saturday as I am first out of the door in our region.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Electric-man
2313 posts
Apr 30, 2009
8:56 PM
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Good luck Joe, with the fly and the heart problems. We will make it to Kansas, but not sure we will make it that far north by 7 am. We will try though!
I live in N. central Okla., and we're getting the same weather, wind,rain, wind, rain, ect.ect.! Thought my birds were tuned in fairly well, but Tues., they wen't straight up, didn't see em again for 2 1/2 hrs. Thought they were gone for sure!
Hope this weather changes soon, I fly the day after you at noon! Best time of the day for feeding sharks here! LOL
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Val
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JBow
72 posts
Apr 30, 2009
9:17 PM
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Joe I sure hope your doing ok. Looking forward to meeting you my friend. Jim Bowen
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macsrollers
58 posts
Apr 30, 2009
10:28 PM
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Thanks for the reply Scott. I tried something last minute last year, but it was the opposite of a boost such as red cell, which I have heard of but never tried. I ended up with 4 birds that couldn't handle being broken down and the rest could handle. Does you no good when 4 birds drop out and land after 4 nice breaks then the rest continue to kick butt. So I too made a bonehead mistake and DQ'd for my first time ever in competition. Thanks for reminding me not to try anything different as I have tomorrow morning to feed before our fly. Today I had 2 falcon attacks and to top that, a swarm of bees landed in the tree behind my kit boxes and actually chased a few of my birds when the landed on the lower wire! What timing on that! Amazing what can happen leading up to fly day! But I'm still having fun! We'll see what happens Saturday on how much fun I am having! Thanks again
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Scott
2124 posts
May 01, 2009
7:25 AM
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Well the judge was kind of a dick now that I'm thinking of it LOL
(It's much easier for some guys to blame the RD, the schedule, the judge, etc. instead of admitting that we just mismanaged them)
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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pigeon pete
294 posts
May 01, 2009
11:52 AM
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Marcus,
You have me worried, do I have to stop kissing my wife as well or is it just the pigs?
Pete
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winwardrollers
228 posts
May 01, 2009
9:56 PM
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Scott
"I had good control on these birds and didn't need to do anything to these birds"
That is a problem I have to often.. have wanting to... tweek..the birds when you should leave.. good enough alone.
Good to see it happens to the best of them. lol
bwinward
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gotspin7
2384 posts
May 02, 2009
9:09 AM
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Scott, you did your best and that is all you can do. I know next time you will not use red cell.. lol... Hey I have my chance of embarrasing myself on the 12th we will see how the chips fall that day...lol
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Sal Ortiz
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Scott
2127 posts
May 03, 2009
9:31 AM
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Joe , Red Cell is just minerals made for horses, at times it ewill stimulate the birds, but also if not careful it can send them up as any mineral can.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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toronto15
212 posts
Jun 26, 2009
4:50 PM
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I thought I would get this off my chest,as I,ve been holding it in since April 24th,this year.Thanks a lot Lipper for jinxing the guy!Campbell is a Scottish name,and is very supersticious.Glen.
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Scott
2257 posts
Jun 27, 2009
10:27 AM
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Glen, are you saying that it was all Lippers fault LOL
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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