RB&R
143 posts
May 04, 2009
3:39 PM
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one of bird became paralyzed, I fly her everyday with no problem and all the sudden i find she paralyzed on her left wing. now she can't fly anymore. any idea that might help her to fly again?
andrew
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Hector Coya
479 posts
May 04, 2009
5:26 PM
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If she didnt hit anything while rolling,she probably has Coccidiousis,its a Virus that affects there Wings,somtimes there leg or any other part of there body.
Keep her separete and treat the rest with Sulmet or any product for Coccidioussis.
Good luck
Hector Coya-SGVS
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j .wanless
755 posts
May 05, 2009
7:12 AM
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hi andrew
do you get vermin in your loft as it sounds to me it could be paratyphoid.or have you brought any new birds to your loft.a sure sign of it is when a normally healthy bird suddenly loses its flying capabilities + normaly lets one of its wings droop.
if it is put it on baytril for 10 days.good luck.
john.
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topnotch uk
457 posts
May 05, 2009
12:17 PM
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coccidiousis is when a bird starts going down hill losing Waite going light i think what hector means is paratyphoid rb&r also try putting your birds on para stop 4 2weeks but you might be lucky it might banged its self in the loft good luck
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RB&R
145 posts
May 05, 2009
9:37 PM
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wanless,
every birds in my kitbox and the main loft are fine. except that one hen. thank you for the advices.
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pigeon pete
301 posts
May 06, 2009
2:12 AM
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Paratyphoid,
If I remember it right, it can cause joint lesions'
Check the wing joints for swelling.
I once had a top hen get this symptom and although I treated her, she still had the droopy wing and kept shaking it as though it was irritated or painful.The wing but joint was swollen.
Unsure of what exactly the cause was (and if she was now a carrier) I sadly had the euthanase her.
I was talking to a freind on the phone yesterday and he had paratyphoid (or Selmonella) in his loft.
He had bought no pigeons in or had no evidence of mice and was puzzled until the vet asked him if he had poultry. He had a few fowl about the place and one hen had the habit of walking through the pigeon loft corridor. I know of more fanciers who got it and the also had poultry. The Chickens were fine and healthy but they were Selmonella carriers.
Pete
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J_Star
1972 posts
May 06, 2009
7:52 AM
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Give her lots of calcium and red grits. She will be fine after couple of weeks. The second possibility is worms, they cause sour wing joints. If you haven't wormed your birds yet, maybe it is time to do so. Try the worming first because you don’t want to give grits or calcium while medicating.
What you guys are talking about happens to the neck not the wings.
Jay
Last Edited by on May 06, 2009 8:55 AM
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j .wanless
756 posts
May 06, 2009
9:00 AM
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hi all
jay paratyphoid can cause swelling to any joint parts of the body.mainly the wing + the legs.most people are so embarresed about it they wont admit to having it.but it is so easy to get .andrew if you do treat it with baytril remember to take all grits + minnerals away when on medication.like pete said check the wing joint for swelling.
good luck john.
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J_Star
1976 posts
May 06, 2009
9:06 AM
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John, I understand that the wings and the legs might get affected; however, the droppings and the feeding will give it away. Attached is an article to freshen up memory:
Paratyphoid (Salmonellosis) Made Simple
By Jay Alnimer (J_Star) 2007
Paratyphoid or Salmonella infection tends to stay hidden until the birds are stressed. Reproduction is the usual stress which triggers the clinical infections. There are other bacteria which can mimic the disease but they make the birds sick much less frequently.
Paratyphoid is common in breeding cocks which can become sick and die very quickly. The cock is fine one day and dead the next with no apparent reason or an obvious clue to the fancier.
Paratyphoid is spread by:
1. Inhalation of dust containing the pathogen.
2. Contaminated feed (insects, mice and rats).
3. Dirty feed troughs and water bowls.
4. Mating.
5. Transmission from the hen to the egg.
6. Feeding the nestlings with infected crop milk and billing.
7. Chronic carriers, which are pigeons that appear healthy after surviving salmonella infection, but shed the pathogen at irregular intervals and thus pose a risk to the current flock and their progeny.
Symptoms of the disease:
Acute form which affects young pigeons: Enteritis with pulpy, mucoid, greenish droppings; once organs (liver, kidneys, spleen) have become infected, there is growth retardation, emaciation and death. Embryos infected with salmonellae frequently die in ovo or during the first few days of life.
Chronic form which affects the adult pigeons are including but not limited to inflammation that causes a thickening of the joints, especially the elbow joints, wing or leg lameness, disorders of balance and torsion of the neck. Difficulty in eating or digesting, mainly water filled crop, won’t fly up to perches. Old birds demonstrate dropped wings, swollen foot (usually left foot), hens become barren and eggs fail to hatch.
There are many and varied symptoms which cause confusion among fanciers for treatment but the birds appear to be ailing in different ways. Fanciers often confuse this disease with PMV due to the symptoms.
Treatment:
Treatment consists of the use of certain antibiotics, preferably one to which the particular strain of bacteria has been show to be susceptible to. When “shooting from the hop” use antibiotics which have a higher degree of success such as Baytril, Saraflox, Cephalexin and Amoxicillin. When the birds are not producing eggs or feeding young, use Baytril. If you treat while they are in reproduction, the best choice is Amoxicillin. Treat for ten days, no less and no longer. Treatment success can be improved when the birds are vaccinated with SalBac while on the antibiotic. Do not vaccinate when the birds are setting eggs or feeding young as they will neglect their duties because of feeling so badly from the vaccine.
However, some cured birds may remain as future carriers. Therefore, the problem may continue until all carriers are lost or destroyed. When this illness is diagnosed, it is better to consult with a vet.
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j .wanless
758 posts
May 06, 2009
9:31 AM
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hi all
jay great imfo i too have my own sources of imfo but unlike you i dont know how to copy it to put it on here.its called the flying vet pigeon health managment
maybe there is a copy right or something.but it would be great if we started a post where we could put something like your post + every other disease on the one post .so any one looking for symptoms can go straight to that page + look it up.what do you all think.
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