Victor Hurtado
58 posts
May 21, 2009
4:59 PM
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how did this bloodline get started and who currently has some of this blood and can give me info on how they r??
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Victor Hurtado
59 posts
May 21, 2009
4:59 PM
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i heard it started from higgins and and that johnny has most the white heat but i could be wrong..
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spanky
821 posts
May 21, 2009
5:27 PM
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MY HOMEBOY ABEL IBARRA HAS SOME WHITE HEAT THAM THOSE ARE SOME GOOD BIRDS DEEP......
SPANKY
SGVS
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Victor Hurtado
60 posts
May 21, 2009
5:35 PM
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yeah for sure heard they deep and frequent.. that foo selling any young??
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spanky
822 posts
May 21, 2009
5:37 PM
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WHER DO YOU LIVE?
SPANKY
SGVS
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Victor Hurtado
61 posts
May 21, 2009
8:27 PM
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over here in rialto its me silent spanky.. but im down to go to his pad... its not for me its my uncle..
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Rick Mee
28 posts
May 21, 2009
10:32 PM
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The pigeon that started that line was bred by Leonard Kahut of Portland, OR. Leonard won the California Classic with a red check hen, I believe it was a daughter or possibly the mother to his CA Classic winner that Jerry got and started the white heat line. Byron Gable bought this bird from Kahut and I got to handle her when Byron lived in WA.
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RXR Loft
413 posts
May 22, 2009
7:51 PM
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the only person I know that has TRUE White Heat is
Sam Smith, received pure birds many years ago, I even have some from him
Los Angeles, Ca.
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RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em... cuz commies don't roll
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Victor Hurtado
65 posts
May 23, 2009
10:49 PM
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rxr hit me up or let me get ur number my uncle thats wants them stays in L.A. and we's willing to spend a good amount for some white heat..
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Andy_her
73 posts
May 24, 2009
12:13 AM
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I got my first pair of White Heat from Leonard Kahut in 1996. Came in at the right time when he was still flying some of the best birds around before the big H problem.
These birds are hot.
All my white heat are from Leonard and Bill S.
Leonard, still have acouple of pair left.
Victor, why do you want these white heat so much?
Their just like any other family of rollers.
Their is a very old pair of white heat right now in Sac.
Might be one of the oldest pair from all the white heat since 1996. I just give it to my friend last year for breeding. My buddie is lost in all the birds he has so let me talk to him if he will give it up. This pair is still laying but really old. If you can wait until the convention if not give me your email and you can contact my buddie personally.
Last Edited by on May 24, 2009 12:20 AM
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Victor Hurtado
66 posts
May 24, 2009
3:53 PM
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yeah ill wait just hit me back up.. i want to see who has these birds couse my uncle got a cock and needs a hen and wants to maybe start a family with just that pair..
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gotspin7
2412 posts
May 24, 2009
8:13 PM
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Victor, you need to be careful of who you buy birds from. I would suggest you see them fly before you buy, all bloodlines throw garbage some more than others. Iregardless of the bloodline. I would lean more towards Abel a little more as he will put them up for you on any given day. Good luck...
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Sal Ortiz
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Victor Hurtado
67 posts
May 24, 2009
10:17 PM
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yeah but homeboy dont wanna sell or sumtin cause i told him ... but whatever its not like we gonna beg for them either.. or ill talk to johnny see if he got some..
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Andy_her
74 posts
May 24, 2009
11:26 PM
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Victor, I'm not here to sell you anything.
If you are interested in this family I will point you to the right person. Since I'm a NO Name I will try to help you the best I can.
Here is my email: andyoriental@yahoo.com
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gotspin7
2413 posts
May 25, 2009
9:22 AM
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Andy, I did not mean that towards you or anybody on this list in general. Just trying to give sound advice. You do not have to be a big name to have good birds. Good luck!
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Sal Ortiz
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Hector Coya
490 posts
May 25, 2009
11:39 AM
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My question is,Where did leanerd Cahut,get the pair that produced this family,like what family do they go back to,Like Pensom,Plona,or some new Inglish imports ?
That is what i want to know,everyone talks about white heat but what does it go back too.
Hector Coya-SGVS
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The more i know mankind,the more i love my Dog,
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Andy_her
75 posts
May 25, 2009
12:32 PM
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Gotspin7, that cool bro...Your advice is correct...
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530flyer
183 posts
May 25, 2009
7:07 PM
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i have heard a lot of grweat things about the white heat bloodline...and from your guys posts it makes me wanna get some..lol..
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530flyer
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pat66
348 posts
May 26, 2009
5:18 PM
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there is a pair on the NBRC auction site,
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Pat
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warpspeed
103 posts
May 26, 2009
5:59 PM
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it goes back to ron kumro hector
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Hector Coya
491 posts
May 26, 2009
6:17 PM
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Thanks Abel
Hector Coya-SGVS
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The more i know mankind,the more i love my Dog,
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RB&R
147 posts
May 26, 2009
7:11 PM
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what is white heat? it is because the foundation bird is a white bird....it sound like white P**** to me. LOL
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Andy_her
76 posts
May 26, 2009
10:05 PM
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I don't know this person but let see if any of the older member hear can help us out...
I was told Bill Shrieber got his birds from Ed Burnerking.
I'm not sure if I spelled it right...
That is where the white heat family came from...
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RXR Loft
416 posts
May 28, 2009
9:41 PM
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Victor, send me an email..
rxrl@isp dot com
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RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em... cuz commies don't roll
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robert71
43 posts
May 28, 2009
10:24 PM
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rxr loft, any of the birds i got from you are from white heat?
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
190 posts
May 29, 2009
2:01 PM
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----------I got 3 pair of white heat from Leonard just a couple of years ago before he moved to his present location. I went to his loft...I flew these birds hard and their young hard for two years and I am sorry..I bird dogged them. No spin and you had to beat the roof to get them to fly. I am sure that "in the day" Leonard had them smoking as I have seen the many trophys in his house..I have spoken to him several times..very fine man..I just could not get anything out of his birds..at the time, he was very very into racing homers...still is to my understanding, but may be back into a few rollers. Bruce
De Oppresso Liber
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RXR Loft
417 posts
May 29, 2009
11:21 PM
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yes,
you should have two..
red check cock # 8 ( made up: white heat & classic, white heat on top & classic bottom )
lavender # 54 (white heat & classic, white heat on top & classic on bottom)
robert you cam email me direct if you wish..
rxrl@isp dot com
fyi I realy liked # 8
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RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em... cuz commies don't roll
Last Edited by on May 29, 2009 11:24 PM
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
191 posts
May 30, 2009
4:19 PM
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----------I was in his coop and liked the look of his birds and asked him what they were..he said "White Heat"..I got 3 pair of birds from him...he told me what they were from his perspective..I am telling you what I got from him..Bruce...I still did not get any roll from them..but am sure that in years previous they were great birds.
De Oppresso Liber
Last Edited by on May 30, 2009 4:21 PM
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localmotion
1 post
Jun 01, 2009
5:25 PM
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HI TO EVERYBODY ON THE FORU I AM FROM PUERTO RICO AND I WANT TO BUY SOME BIRDS I AM A FANCIER WE DO NOT HAVE A CLUB HERE BUT I WANT TO HAVE NICE BIRDS I ANY HAVE NICE ONES AVAILABLE PLEASE CONTACT ME . THANK YOU SO MUCH ORLANDO
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3015 posts
Jun 01, 2009
5:39 PM
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Welcome Orlando where you from ?I'm in the Island....I have rollers for ten yrs here in the Island. I do not sell birds..I can help you get started but it will take a while since I don't have quantity as the falcon wipe me out.plus I'm not about quantity I'm about quality...now if you want birds now .. ..talk to the owner of this site Tony..hit the contact buttom at the right you can get nice birds from him.. ..
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
Last Edited by on Jun 01, 2009 6:14 PM
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jt smash
56 posts
Jun 01, 2009
6:00 PM
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I remember Abel when he was about 17 years old he had some off the wall birds back then . i think he has this white roller stuff down to a science, Jerry Higgins saw his white birds back in the days he knows whta i am talking about JT SMASHn
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