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nicksiders
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3453 posts
May 30, 2009
12:46 PM
I have found that many times a flier is punished by his deep bird(s). Many fliers will even remove thier deepist bird(s) from the kit before competition. The judge will often not score a kit because the deep bird(s) have not made it back to the kit when they, the kit, breaks in scoring numbers. These deep birds should not be considered out birds when they are making a resonable attempt to regrain kitting. I have found that they are declared out birds until the catch back up to the kit.

What do you think?
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Just My Take On Things

Nick Siders
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304 posts
May 30, 2009
12:58 PM
How deep? If a kitt is suppose to work as a team, and concert performance is what rewarded, then maybe the to deep birds should be pulled as well as to short. I enclude Myself in this, We have a year to get ready, the ability in most case to breed over a hundred birds a year. I ask myself each season, what happened. was I penalized for deep birds or should I try to come up with a new excuse.

Last Edited by on May 30, 2009 2:08 PM
harrison
797 posts
May 30, 2009
1:31 PM
I would love and am yet to see a kit of rollers that are all the same depth in roll.
Yes you can get close but I think its good to see a kit with diffrent types of depth.
I like to see nothing better then 6or 7 birds go over and one just rip straight past them.
I dont see this a problem with my birds as it only takes 2 seconds max for the birds to regain as one kit.
If a bird takes its time to get back to the kit then it should not make it to the A TEAM in the first place.
Just my view on things.
yours harrison.
j .wanless
793 posts
May 30, 2009
1:32 PM
hi all
nick no way should a deep bird be penalised as long as it heads back to the kit.we all like to see good deep quality birds.but i have seen many times were extremely deep birds have ruined a very good kit because they struggle to get back with the kit.tim .p asked me to explain what i seen on my 1st visit to s/a
talking about very deep birds .edgar roscoe flew a kit of extremely deep birds for me + morris hole who loves deep birds.on that day they were 1 of the best kits of deep fast birds i have ever seen.but he flew 19 of them all the same lenth + style they were awsome
on that day.i have seen the kit quite a few times since + never seen them much good to be honest.the 1st time i seen them they kitted really well.but that was the only time i have seen them kit good.because of the deepness of them they struggle to stay together
but the 1st time i seen them will live with me for ever like i said they were awsome on that day.
donnie james
477 posts
May 30, 2009
2:15 PM
hay nick i think the judges are looking foe shorter birds in the kit at are working together like 15 -20 footers .................donny james


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