Victor Hurtado
98 posts
Jun 09, 2009
2:57 PM
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who r two ppl u would like to see duke it out with rollers??
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Victor Hurtado
99 posts
Jun 09, 2009
3:02 PM
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i would like to see
Jerry Higgins vs Norm Reed
Abel Ibarra vs Johnny Smith
Keith London vs Paul Gomez
i chose these because ppl r always compoaring these ppl with eachother and their birds..
THeRes morE but cant think right now.. i dont want anyone to take this persoanlly just though they would be great matches...no intention of anybody beefing it..
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fresnobirdman
591 posts
Jun 09, 2009
4:02 PM
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i wanna see who will win if;
Paul Fullerton vs. Tony C.
and Norm Reed vs. Ken Easely
I want to see these peoples go at each other because paul has done a good job with tonys rubys.
and a lot people flys norms and easelys birds,
-fou
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xueher
88 posts
Jun 09, 2009
4:46 PM
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I would like to see Ed Harmon VS SidLove. Loser pays for the BBQ to whom ever come see these two kits perform.
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Marvin
118 posts
Jun 09, 2009
4:51 PM
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i think 1 phly wouldnt be enough maybe best of 5 that way we could see whos the best mgr is cause 1 of the 2 could have a bad day just my opinion. win lose or tie wrollers still my game
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1023 posts
Jun 09, 2009
5:37 PM
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I'm agreeing with fresno, Paul&Tony. Now thay would be cool!
Thom
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bigwilly
963 posts
Jun 09, 2009
5:38 PM
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Steve Smith vs Abel
Norm Reed vs Steve Smith
Steve Smith vs Hollywood
Gomez vs Scott Campbell
BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
Last Edited by on Jun 09, 2009 5:40 PM
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Victor Hurtado
100 posts
Jun 09, 2009
7:13 PM
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yeah bigwilly steve smith against abel would be tight.. and steve smith with norm but i kinda consider norm the best right now so i dont know..
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yang501424
273 posts
Jun 09, 2009
7:34 PM
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Victor and Fou!!! GOGOGOGOGO
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155
1055 posts
Jun 09, 2009
7:35 PM
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Victor Hurtado:
norm but i kinda consider norm the best right now,
what do you mean by saying his the best? the best of flying kit's or one of the best of selling birds!!
becuz i dont think he have a A team or do he?
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rtwilliams
GOLD MEMBER
399 posts
Jun 09, 2009
7:46 PM
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James Turner and Scott Cambell
Ken Billings and Cliff Ball
They both argue enough, Which I learn a lot from. It wouls fun to see who can put up the best kit.
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RT Williams
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Victor Hurtado
101 posts
Jun 10, 2009
12:31 PM
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155 at flying kits.. and hes known for having good birds and not because hes hes a showoff..
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yang501424
274 posts
Jun 10, 2009
5:39 PM
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I want to see Joe Emberton vs Abel Ibarra.
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yang501424
275 posts
Jun 10, 2009
5:39 PM
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O I forgot both of them flew in the finals in the world cup and We know who got the higher score.
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xueher
89 posts
Jun 10, 2009
6:28 PM
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I would also like SidLove battle out Chewy Thao. Batlle of the english birds.
Also like to see Ying Yang VS Laron Doucet VS Patrick Topper. Battle out of the old school pensom.
Also like to see Ro Black and Ken Firl go at it with the Easley birds.
Most of all Kham Thao VS Thomas Thao. Battle of the Rubies. lol.
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donnie james
498 posts
Jun 10, 2009
9:03 PM
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its hard to say on any good day some one will have a good day flying and luck out and win the fly...........donny james
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Victor Hurtado
103 posts
Jun 10, 2009
11:00 PM
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man if i had atleast a decent kit i would battle anyone but since my rollers dont speak for me right now imma have to shut up for now..
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Square
723 posts
Jun 11, 2009
9:30 AM
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The Sidlove and Chewy battle sounds good, (Battle of the English stuff) Does either one of them fly straight English stuff? That would be one id love to see... Good luck Bro's
Square
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Alohazona
642 posts
Jun 11, 2009
1:30 PM
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Rich Hayes vs Rick Mee
Don Ouellette vs Ken Billings
Kevin Monroe vs Scott Campbell
Cliff Ball vs Dave Szabatura
Mike Tyson vs Heine Bijker with his ears slathered in sweet sour sauce... LOL..Aloha,Todd
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Mark
44 posts
Jun 12, 2009
2:19 AM
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Spanky, I think the question to ask is if you have been to Tim's lately? If you haven't just look at the scores he has been putting up as of late. The guy is always up there in the top durring the Fall Flys and the World Cup.
Mark
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kj loft
180 posts
Jun 12, 2009
5:08 AM
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I would like to see my m8s kenny and jay in a big flyof in the world cup. that would be the tops for me ..johno uk ..
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Electric-man
2353 posts
Jun 12, 2009
12:15 PM
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I'm suprised I didn't see my name on this challenge list!
We could call it one dumbass roller flyer against another! Any challenges?
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Val
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MANN
26 posts
Jun 12, 2009
12:50 PM
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Sal Ortiz VS Steve Smith or James turner Vs Tony Roberts
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yang501424
276 posts
Jun 12, 2009
12:54 PM
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We dont need to go to Abels or Tim. We need to go to nbrconline.com or worldcupfly.com and look up the scores it speaks already.
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
1927 posts
Jun 12, 2009
12:56 PM
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Interesting match-ups guys! I'd like to see some of those, myself!
Cliff
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Hector Coya
497 posts
Jun 12, 2009
1:49 PM
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I think Tim Decker is the man with the best kits,ive seen them and let me tell you ,i havent seen better,,,
Hector Coya-SGVS
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Victor Hurtado
108 posts
Jun 12, 2009
2:31 PM
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im not dissing abel or anything but i think he only has good birds cause homeboy buys the best birds out there they all coming straight from johnny and higgins like they say money talks..
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Scott
2227 posts
Jun 12, 2009
2:44 PM
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If only it were that easy, it just doesn't work that way, you can't buy your way in.
Scott
(im not dissing abel or anything but i think he only has good birds cause homeboy buys the best birds out there they all coming straight from johnny and higgins like they say money talks.. )
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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xueher
91 posts
Jun 12, 2009
2:49 PM
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The guys hosting the convention in Sac, Ca should of plan out a day for everyone to go down south of california so we can go see abels n tim's kit birds thta would of been awesome.
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Scott
2228 posts
Jun 12, 2009
3:08 PM
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They are 8 hrs one way
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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warpspeed
105 posts
Jun 12, 2009
3:15 PM
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victor first of all get your information right i dont have any johnny smith pigeons and i have never bought a bird from jerry. i have had my family since 1994 and have not brought any new blood in unlike everyone else searching for the gold pot. yes i have had bad luck on the big flys but thats no excuse. the cprc's ironman trophy has one name with almost triple the amount of points than the next closest person and guess whos name that is. and once again ill repeat same day same judge and lets see how good u really are with a wager on the line im always searching for competitors. some people who have won the big flys have not even put up anything worth wasting gas on thats just the way it is could not fly a good kit let alone a winning kit if their life depended on it
abel
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warpspeed
106 posts
Jun 12, 2009
3:24 PM
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funny how abel breeds only abel ibarra birds but some of the lofts you mentioned breed abel ibarras birds also mark victor. hector,mark,yang,xueher,victor get some money together find someone to fly against me same day same judge and make me a believer
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 3:28 PM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2622 posts
Jun 12, 2009
4:02 PM
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Viva la Raza...............
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PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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kcfirl
581 posts
Jun 12, 2009
4:28 PM
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Hi Abel,
there are about 10 guys in SoCal I would love to see fly a kit and you are one of them. I believe you could put up a kit of smokers.
However, claiming an iron man trophy in a local club, albeit perhaps the top local club in the world, is not the same as winning a national or world championship.
Your comment "some people who have won the big flys have not even put up anything worth wasting gas on thats just the way it is could not fly a good kit let alone a winning kit if their life depended on it" is disrespectful to those that have achieved the pinnacle of the sport.
Please clarify.
Best Regards,
Ken
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warpspeed
107 posts
Jun 12, 2009
4:37 PM
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nothing to clarify just stated a fact
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2623 posts
Jun 12, 2009
4:49 PM
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I have my moooooooolaaaaa$..$$$$$ on Abel.......
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PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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xueher
92 posts
Jun 12, 2009
5:08 PM
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Wow 8 hrs thats it. Lets go LMAO.
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yang501424
277 posts
Jun 12, 2009
5:13 PM
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Just wondering Abel, do you like how Hannes Rossouw judging? As for me I do because hes doesn't give point to waterfalling and this 1/2 second nonsense. And also hes here not to make people proud of there kits being in the hundreds but showing who has the real deal.
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yang501424
278 posts
Jun 12, 2009
5:26 PM
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The people whos on top now wouldn't be there if they counted all these nonsense(waterfalling 1/2second) and we would probably see many people in the hundreds.
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Mark
45 posts
Jun 12, 2009
5:34 PM
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Able, my comment about Tim was not a dig on your birds. Everyone here knows what you have at your house (I'm sure you have seen me in your backyard once or twice or five time times), it was just a responce to the post "who VS who".
Mark
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 5:35 PM
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warpspeed
108 posts
Jun 12, 2009
5:51 PM
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yang hannes is an excellent judge and is doing a good job i have him in the same category as scott. the difference this year is the 1/2 sec rule so naturally scores are going to be lower but that does mean that a team cant score hundreds.
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Mark
46 posts
Jun 12, 2009
6:21 PM
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Spanky, I know what Tim flys at his house and I know he has bred out of one of his birds,if there are more I don't know about it, but reading your statement (and I have been to Abel's this year, I was the scribe for Eldon Cheny when he judged Abel's kit this year) are you saying that he is beating him with his own birds?
Mark
Mark
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 6:25 PM
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Built4Speed
233 posts
Jun 12, 2009
6:32 PM
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NEXT...... LOL
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Mark
47 posts
Jun 12, 2009
6:55 PM
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Spanky the post was "who VS who". Not who has the best, who flys their own family or anything like that, just "who VS who". How this subject got turned around, I don't know. Maybe it should have been titled "who has the best". Then alot of the wordage that is taking place would fit right in, but it wasn't it was "who VS who". Like I stated before to Abel, everyone knows that he has ass kicking birds. There is no debate over this matter. I just was making reference to the results of the Fall Fly last year and the World Cup this year and that team comp. that took place a few weeks ago (even though there seemed to be some funny stuff taking place, it didn't involve Tim's team).
You are right about the Cheny thing last year I stand corrected.
Mark
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 6:58 PM
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xueher
93 posts
Jun 12, 2009
7:30 PM
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I dont think there is anything wrong with a great flyer trying out another great flyers birds. Everyone wants to improve there stock birds it dont matter there is always something to improve in everyone's birds.Now I really like to see Tim VS Abel.
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Scott
2229 posts
Jun 12, 2009
7:33 PM
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Spanky, I don't need any body elses birds either, but there is nothing wrong with playing with others birds either, matter a fact I have a Starley pair that KGB sent me recently, did I need them ? no , did I want them ? yes
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2626 posts
Jun 12, 2009
7:34 PM
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Like to see:
ken billings vs cliff ball
scott c vs james turner
Tony vs dave szabatura
kevin monroe vs george mason
eldon vs ray sanchez
Abel ibarra vs the state of california
Viva la raza abel......
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PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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George R.
6 posts
Jun 12, 2009
8:11 PM
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I will fly against ANYBODY .....
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xueher
94 posts
Jun 12, 2009
9:09 PM
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Abel I was thinking if all of us you mention was to save our money and choose a flyer to fly against you.Pick our flyer and a judge I really would like to see you take my money. But then again like you mention u dont have luck on big fly days I just hope its worth my gas.
(funny how abel breeds only abel ibarra birds but some of the lofts you mentioned breed abel ibarras birds also mark victor. hector,mark,yang,xueher,victor get some money together find someone to fly against me same day same judge and make me a believer )
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM
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macsrollers
94 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:54 PM
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TIm Decker year in and year out is in the top 10 of the finals in WC and Fall Fly. He has excellent spinners and knows what to do with them. He survived terrible desease from the last attempted California Classic and within a couple seasons was back near the top. I havent' had the pleasure to see Abel's birds. But appears by the posts they are thought highly of by some respectable guys so I hope I get to see them some day. Tim breeds out of several families he created, and if he breeds out of some of Abel's stock then Abel should be honored. Tim vs. Abel- would love to see that. If Abel's birds are as good as Tim's and Abel is as a comparable roller handler to Tim then I would wager they would split wins around 50% in a continous fly-off. That in itself is an honor to both of them.
I would love to see William Pensom vs. Stan Plona! Maybe we will all be lucky when our time comes and there is a roller heaven full of all the greats and their birds.
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