TT
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417 posts
Jun 09, 2009
7:02 PM
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Who feeds there birds after a fly individually?
And If so do you use compartments and is there any pictures
available?
I would like to do this and wanted to see the setups out there
TIA
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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Square
722 posts
Jun 10, 2009
1:15 PM
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Hay TT, this a good one I kinda brought it up awhile ago. I rember seeing the all England video it was on VHS and made in the 80's or somthing like that. However there was a guy that had a system kinda like individuals but for 20 birds or so, he had some coop tumbler type from what I rember. Any ways Ive done this on a smaller scale my system lets me feed 5 indivually at a time, and have hade good results, not to mention you get to see the results on your birds from specific grains or program, because each is getting the excat amout of food.. Good topic..
Square
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1026 posts
Jun 10, 2009
2:13 PM
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Interesting, had not thought of doing that.
Good topic.
Thom
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glenn
259 posts
Jun 10, 2009
7:25 PM
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Hello:
I only know of (2) guys that have done that & that is Kenny Billings & Jesse Comer.....Glenn
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spanky
843 posts
Jun 10, 2009
8:13 PM
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MY FREIND FIL IS DOING THIS PROGRAM FEEDING THEM IN THE SHOW PENS. I JUST STARTED DOING IT TO 1 WEEK AHEAD BEFORE THE FLY. I'LL SEE IF IT DOES ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
SPANKY
SGVS
Last Edited by on Jun 10, 2009 8:17 PM
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
418 posts
Jun 10, 2009
9:52 PM
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I have something in mind, Ill need a couple days to finish it up, Tomorrow ill pick up the materials, and post some pics.
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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macsrollers
93 posts
Jun 10, 2009
10:15 PM
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Don Ouellette is the first person to teach me about managing a kit of rollers as individuals instead of throwing a tray of feed in for the whole lot. Monte Neibel responded to a letter I sent him and he talked about how he will give individual birds that are off a little about a dozen peas each after feeding his whole kit before a fly. I don't feed each of my kit birds individually, but I have learned to feed individuals that need it seperately. I simply put them in a wire cage and give them a measure of food. On thing to be careful of is overfeeding a bird this way. A few years ago I had to move up 5 young birds to my A team leading up to the Fall Fly due to predator loses. I fed each of them extra feed after feeding the whole kit for the last time before flying. But I gave them too much feed and they packed themselves. On fly day these young birds were too strong and the rest of my team was where they should be. But the young birds led the kit and took them high. It really comes down to watching and knowing your team when you fly them. A bird that is high frequency or seems a little off may need an extra fly off and a little boost of feed, or a younger bird may need a little extra then your old bird team you are flying it with. Be careful and only give each bird a teaspoon or perhaps a tablespoon extra. When I flew in the WC finals a few weeks ago I gave 4 birds a dozen peas each. It didn't look like much but think about how much it really is in proportion to a roller. This takes time and effort to identify and know the needs of each bird in your kit. I don't do this for everyday flies except rest a bird that looks off or is a hard worker and give them some extra food. But I have done this more and more leading up to the big flies and I believe it has paid positive dividends. You have to experiment and try things in order to see what works for your birds. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results! Play around with the feed and learn the individuals in your team and see what happens! Good subject!
Thanks, Don M. Mac's Rollers LVRC
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Pumpkin Man
99 posts
Jun 11, 2009
10:20 AM
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i don't do this but I can see where a late trapping bird would not get its share and it may be necessary.. Before I resorted to this I would start by not allowing birds to trap in until they had all landed. It might also keep birds from landing early and beating others to the feed. I don't like making them wait to long. But I do want them landed and have gathered themselves a minute or two before I let them in, and then I would prefer they all come into the box within a minute of each other.
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Square
727 posts
Jun 11, 2009
11:08 AM
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Yea Pumpkin man I hear you, another benifit of this system is that, it makes the birds even. When you feed them all togeather some eat faster than others and if you are feeding a mix then some birds are slective to a cirntain seed and they leave the less desirable till last... Keep in mind this is my observation with my birds. Depending on what I want outta the birds I will also feed grains indivually first wheat then milo...or whatever,, Hope this makes sence.
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
419 posts
Jun 11, 2009
11:28 AM
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I dont feed my birds till about 20 mins after they land, Why i dont is because i dont want to associated them landing and immediately feeding, creating a bad habit.
What i did notice after i feed in the kit box is there is definitely birds the fight harder no matter what pushing others to the side and you'll get some birds that just jump all over the place to try and get there share.
After feeding ill grad certain birds and feel there crop and notice that they have half if not less then others.
Making then weaker and the others lazier,
Just my observation maybe others have noticed the same.
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
420 posts
Jun 11, 2009
6:02 PM
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This is what i completed today, Need to figure out doors, But as for now i built 25 boxes 10H x 10W x 11 3/8D
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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Mount Airy Lofts
886 posts
Jun 12, 2009
3:00 PM
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Here is some thing I dug up from the past. I had saved this in my Roller Archives back in 2003 or so. Time flies!! Enjoy:
" Here's a view showing how the cage is hung on the kitbox and can be easily removed when the birds are through. I trap the birds in and then open the door and hang the feeder. The birds are so eager, they jump right in the little compartments. The whole cage is made of welded wire, and you can use 1 X 1 or 1/2 X 1, which ever is easiest to find. The small compartments are 4 X 4 inches, to allow only one bird at a time in each. I have 7 compartments across the cage, due to the size of the door opening, but you can have any combination you want. Mine holds 21 birds, but I could add another 7 units very easily. The top of the cage has a door that flips open if necessary to trap in any late arriving birds. This setup can also be used as a small flight cage if you take all the feed cups out. by Wendell Spiask"
Thor
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