nicksiders
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3464 posts
Jun 11, 2009
8:17 PM
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This is Bill Roy who after his fly was in 8th place.
This is Mrs. William Roy
This is just part of the crowd that came to Bill's home just to watch 20 pigeons fly for 20 minutes. It is all about people, ain't it?
Bill liberating his birds
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
Last Edited by on Jun 11, 2009 8:19 PM
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PR_rollers
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3053 posts
Jun 11, 2009
8:26 PM
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good pictures Nick ..its all about the people but the birds is what brought the ppl together..great to see a bunch having a good time...peace...
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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donnie james
500 posts
Jun 11, 2009
9:16 PM
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hay nick nick pictures and looks like everyone had a great time..............and way to go bill.......... donny james
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Scott
2226 posts
Jun 11, 2009
9:30 PM
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Great pictures Nick, I see he had decent multipliers also.
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Scott
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nicksiders
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3466 posts
Jun 11, 2009
11:11 PM
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Scott,
It was windy as hell and because of that the kit was not the same kit that I saw in the regionals. He does have some real good birds and has been at this hobby awhile. He; Spike Gilmore; and Bob Westfall pass birds amoungst themselves.
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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nicksiders
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3467 posts
Jun 11, 2009
11:18 PM
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This is Spike Gilmore. Most everybody in this part of the country has his bloodline in thier loft.
This is Bob Westfall. Many people in the whole midwest and lands beyond has his bloodlines in thier lofts.
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Nick Siders
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Southplainsroller
11 posts
Jun 12, 2009
1:00 AM
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Mr.Roy is a great guy, and has helped me from day one, since I was about 16 haha, and sent me some damn good birds. I cant thank him enough, hell of a nice guy.
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
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2621 posts
Jun 12, 2009
4:18 AM
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Congrats to Bill Roy...............
His a great roller guy....................
Including the rest in that region
Bill Pensom Roy
Jim fast-deep spinners Bowen
El chingon Sal Ortiz
Papa Nick siders
Ferrrel overalls Bussing
Val muscle Reneau
Bob old timer westfall
Bob Anderson
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 4:30 AM
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gotspin7
2417 posts
Jun 12, 2009
5:47 AM
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Nick, nice pics! Thanks for sharing!!
Congrats Bill. Great way of representing our region.
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Sal Ortiz
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kj loft
182 posts
Jun 12, 2009
7:35 AM
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Good pictures lads it looks like you had a nice day ..johno uk ..
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Sunflower
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441 posts
Jun 12, 2009
8:39 AM
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Great pictures Nick, Thanks!!
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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dave
418 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:26 AM
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Brother Nick,
How did Norm do? Great pictures by the way. Looks like you guys had fun. Will I see you at the convention?
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nicksiders
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3468 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:56 AM
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Norm just couldn't get the edge back on his birds after the regionals. He has some damn fine pigeons. I was going to make it to his fly, but just ran out of time and I could only swing the Bill Roy fly.
Norm is on of those solid good guys in this hobby and it is always a treat to visit his place. Jim Bowen lives near buy and between the two of them they can fly some damn good kits. It is always a good visit there.
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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nicksiders
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3469 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:59 AM
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This is Norm. Good, good man.
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Nick Siders
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Ballrollers
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1928 posts
Jun 12, 2009
1:02 PM
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I find that one of the biggest challenges in the sport of flying competition rollers is the transition from the regionals to the finals. 90% of kits do not perform as well in the finals as they did in the regionals, myslef included.
Cliff
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nicksiders
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3470 posts
Jun 13, 2009
5:11 PM
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Can you tell me who this is?
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Nick Siders
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
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2627 posts
Jun 13, 2009
5:51 PM
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Looks like scott campbell....
Tony Chavarria..??? if im right ill get a ball cap.......lol
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3057 posts
Jun 13, 2009
6:28 PM
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I find that one of the biggest challenges in the sport of flying competition rollers is the transition from the regionals to the finals. 90% of kits do not perform as well in the finals as they did in the regionals, myslef included.
Cliff
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Hey Cliff why you think is the reason.is it because of BOP?
Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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Electric-man
2354 posts
Jun 13, 2009
7:23 PM
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Hey, break out on the T's "T"! I knew you was holding! LOL
Thanks for the pics Nick! You have a heck of a collection of fliers in your album, you ought to start a new thread and post em all with names! In your free time of course! LOL
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Val
Last Edited by on Jun 13, 2009 7:26 PM
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Mongrel Lofts
594 posts
Jun 13, 2009
11:53 PM
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Nick,
Doesn't Bill Roy fly mostly Ray Sanchez stock? I know he used to fly mostly Jacs, But last I heard Bill Roy was flying Ray Sanchez and Sanches Jac crosses. Is this correct or not? KGB
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Tony Chavarria
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3347 posts
Jun 14, 2009
12:45 AM
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Kenny, I spent some time with Bill after everyone left and he is flying jacs. He does have some from Ray but I wasn't under the impression they were taking him in a new direction. Bill is successful with his jacs. I think he is staying with them. Of course, Bill could tell you better than me.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Mongrel Lofts
596 posts
Jun 14, 2009
9:21 AM
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Hi Tony,
Thanks for the information. I asked because of what I heard about a certain Blue check W/F cock and a red mealy bar cock Bill Had gotten from Sanchez. I heard these two were really bringing the depth and quality. To point Bill.was looking for a mealy hen.
I hadn't heard about Bill Roy doing so well especially in the D&Q until the last few years. So I thought maybe the cross had stepped his program up a notch. Ask Bill about those two cocks for me. I would like to know if he is really using them.
I'm told the Jacs from a guy down there named Joe John Gobbs) sp is probably wrong LOL really flys some top shelf Jacs and many of Bill Roys Jacs are from him. Do you know anything about these Jacs?
Bill Roy looks to be a real flyer and manager! I always like to know what the winning lofts are up to.
Congrats to Bill Roy. I have a feeling we will be hearing a lot more from him! KGB
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nicksiders
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3471 posts
Jun 14, 2009
10:00 AM
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Joe John Gotts is his name. I will give Bill a call and ask him about the Sanchez birds. I knew he had a Sanchez bird or two, but I don't know what he has got in his breeding program. Got a bunch of what they are calling "Gilroys" which is a mixture of Gilmore and Roy and those are Jac Based.
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Nick Siders
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
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2628 posts
Jun 14, 2009
10:29 AM
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Bill has told me about joe john gott he flys some dandy birds he aquired them from Jaconette in early 80s....
I breed and fly bills birds and has told me he has 2 or 3 birds from RAY......
But his foundation stuff are all Jacs........
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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Mongrel Lofts
597 posts
Jun 14, 2009
11:29 AM
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Hey Rudy,
Thanks for the information On Gotts. I figured I had that wrong! LOL KGB
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nicksiders
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3472 posts
Jun 14, 2009
12:49 PM
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The more I get around in the country I am finding that a lot of top notch fliers have families that are Jac based. People like Thibodeaux; Westfall; Roy; McCormick come to mind and I know there are others. I am now working with Thibodeaux and Cheney birds and I am finding them to be a very busy and strong birds. Not very docile. The Thibodeaux's are Jac based. I haven't competed with them yet, but I am getting anxious to do so.
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Nick Siders
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Mongrel Lofts
598 posts
Jun 14, 2009
3:21 PM
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Hey Nick,
A lot to be said for breeding over 200 pair of rollers. Law of avrages.. If you sold say 600 birds a year and 3 guys got a good one a year. That would make 60 guys with good Jac based familys over a 20 year span. Then take the number of guys that got birds from those that bred the good ones. Jacs were sold like Pepsi and Bud wiser in this country for many years. The sheer number sold and amount of Jacs out there, demands there be some good ones. Its the law of averages. The AmWay system if you will, LOL KGB
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nicksiders
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3476 posts
Jun 15, 2009
10:14 PM
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Kenny,
I believe it. I don't think people that have birds from Westfall should be calling them Jac based. Hell, he had the same family since 1985. I think they are Westfall birds now. Same can be said about Thibodeaux. He has had Jac birds longer than Jaconette had them..........I think you can call his Thibodeaux birds by now and not even talk about Jaconette when dicussing his birds.
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Nick Siders
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