morne
7 posts
Jun 24, 2009
6:53 AM
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this hen is a 3 year old. she does everything i want from a roller. a real team player. my concern is that when landing she lets rip with a spin and stops centimeters from loft roof, sometimes with a bit of a thud but always on her feet
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3129 posts
Jun 24, 2009
7:09 AM
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Morne and she will hit one day trust me I had one like that I said wow she knows when to stop until oneday boom never did it again was her last roll..do you fly her every day if you do fly her every two days and be right in front of her when coming down to land and talk loud so like distract her I been doing that and its working so far with one I have now I be like easy now easy does it..hey I try anything if it works ,I throw her a parrachute if I can.. good luck.----------ps I forgot to answer the ?..no I wouldn't..
Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
Last Edited by on Jun 24, 2009 9:42 AM
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1061 posts
Jun 24, 2009
7:26 AM
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Morne, If you breed from a roll down all you will ever have are roll downs. I think that would be cruel. Even bumping is a fault that should not be breed for. If you want to try to save this bird, o.k. but you asked about breeding from it and my answer is no.
Thom
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kcfirl
588 posts
Jun 24, 2009
8:27 AM
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Dear Morne,
the answer depends on your present stock loft situation. Guys make the mistake of breeding from birds that have faults all the time. I have also made the mistake of not stocking a bird unless it was perfect, eventhough there have been several that I did not stock that were better than what was in the stock loft.
If the bird is better than what is in your stock loft, I say stock it and see what you get.
I am of the opinion that our pigeons propensity to roll is not black and white but that there is an infinite range of stiff to frequent, little control to too much control and that every bird is somewhere on the continuum. This bird may not have all the control you desire in a perfect bird, but she could be a good ingredient to the cake you are baking.
Best Regards,
Ken
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
285 posts
Jun 24, 2009
8:38 AM
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If you have a cock that has everything that you like but depth, that would be my choice for her.JDA
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morne
8 posts
Jun 24, 2009
9:58 AM
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thanx guys i think i will leave her in kit for a little longer and see what happens.maybe one day do an experimental mating if she lasts that long.
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fhtfire
1974 posts
Jun 24, 2009
10:26 AM
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If that hen is 3 years old and has been in the kit for three years....then you should not see or should I say at that age you should have what you have.....The birds in NOT a roll down..a roll down would have been dead by now....if she has not hit and pulls up at the last second then she has some control...no control is a splat.
I will tell you this...two of my BEST stock hens did that very thing..never hit but would do that very thing and they are my best hens and DO NOT produce birds that did the same....
Ken is so right....it may be what you need in your cake....only one way to find out....breed it and see...what will it hurt...you will know the results in a fly season and a half.
IF the bird is three....it is showing you all it has...if it were me....and at that age...I would try it and see....you never know unless you try....why keep flying the bird?..at three years old...you see what you see...
rock and ROLL
Paul
I feel from you description and the age of the bird...."if she lasts that long"...if she has not rolled down yet or got hurt..she most likely will not...why wait....in this sport time is of the essence...dont waist time....breed it to two or three of best cocks and two of your not so best cocks and see if you strike gold...that extra heat that bird posseses may give your birds a little more frequency...
Like I said...two of my best hens did the same thing....never hit pull up at the last second and land on the feet....TRY IT!!!!
rock and ROLL
Paul
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JEFF WILSON
5 posts
Jun 24, 2009
10:58 AM
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paul is right if she is three she is not a roll down she would have been dead long ago when she had less control of landing .breed her it won't cost much just time and feed.
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1062 posts
Jun 24, 2009
11:28 AM
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Morne, I still think it is problematic to breed from this bird. That being said, I will aqueous to Paul and Kin's logic and experience with this caution. Keep very good records on the prodigy and if the heat is too much, discontinue the experiment. It's tough enough trying to figure out and develop a strain without built in problems. Best of luck!
Thom
Last Edited by on Jun 24, 2009 12:14 PM
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quickspin
1036 posts
Jun 24, 2009
1:00 PM
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Morne, If she had what I want why not? I would breed that hen with a cock that is more stable and doesn't do the same fault. You never want to breed two birds with the same fault. Just make sure you do take notes on the offspring and I would not in breed back to the mother.
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SALAS LOFT
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donnie james
532 posts
Jun 24, 2009
4:11 PM
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hay morne does she do this all the time ??????????? if not i would breed from her and i want to wish you all the best with this hen...............donny james
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