Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1092 posts
Jun 28, 2009
7:00 AM
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Hey All, I have a cock bird that is a high X wing. At least with my eyes! lol He is medium depth from 10' to 30' and occasionally deeper. When he spins it is almost always from slightly above the kit, say 10 feet, and through the kit. He is quick to return and rejoins from behind and slightly below. Then climbs up through the kit until he is once again slightly above and in front he maintains this position for a short rest, 10 to 30 seconds, then spins again, down and through. I like this bird a lot! My question, is this a trait one that can be breed for, or just this birds behavior? I have 10 hold over cocks, all brothers but spread by age over 5 years. This bird is 3 years old and the only one that consistently flys this pattern.
Thanks, Thom
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Scott
2269 posts
Jun 28, 2009
8:08 AM
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How long has he been doing this ? he sounds like he is trying to avoid the kit.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Oldfart
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1093 posts
Jun 28, 2009
8:41 AM
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Scott, He has always rejoined the kit in this fashion. He is quick to return, never out flies and sticks like glue when in the kit. He just seems to like being up front, not necessarily in the lead but #2 or #3. The first part of the fly he will spin 2 or 3 times a minute. The last part he along with the kit slows but he still is one of the busiest. If he is caught in a position that makes it hard to approach from the rear, he will still go to the front and just slightly above. It might not be as high as 10', my eyes are not what they were but it is always in and above, short pause (depending on the time in the fly as to how long) then spin.
Thom
Last Edited by on Jun 28, 2009 9:06 AM
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PAUL R.
59 posts
Jun 29, 2009
10:56 PM
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Trigger bird, I dont think so. If he was, he would trigger the other birds to go at the same time.
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Oldfart
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1103 posts
Jun 30, 2009
3:53 AM
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Hey Paul, He does when he spins through the kit. My point was that because he always returns to the same point in the kit, slightly above and in the front and is a frequent preformer would this be considered a trigger bird. If he is great, if not he is still a very good bird and a team player.
Thom
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Tony Chavarria
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3411 posts
Jun 30, 2009
5:10 AM
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Thom, if this bird is not considered an out bird, and when he rolls as you describe, it causes the others to roll, he is in fact, a trigger bird. The only thing you describe that might make him questionable is if he is flying too high over the kit and this would make him an out bird for competition sakes.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1104 posts
Jun 30, 2009
5:48 AM
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Tony, I don't fly comp. and probably never will. I went through all that in the sixty's. It was fun but that part for me is over. I have absolutely nothing against the fanciers that still enjoy the skill, concentration and frustration it takes.
If I had just said slightly above the kit everyone would have understood what I was saying but, I said ten feet. It's not that consistent of a thing. The kit breaks and reforms, his preferred place is in the front and slightly above the kit, it could be ten feet, it could be one foot, it's not always the same. When he spins it is from the front then back and down through the kit. His snap sets off the front of the kit which in turn sends them down and through, setting off the rest. Not always for a full turn but with good numbers in the break. I don't have enough old birds to make up a large kit so I'm flying eleven to thirteen birds and some of these are the oldest young birds I have. In the shuffle my question got lost. Assuming I would like to breed for this behaviour, is it a individual preference of just this bird or is it a trait that might be passable to his prodgy?
Thanks, Thom
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2009 5:50 AM
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rookie from ct
44 posts
Jun 30, 2009
5:55 AM
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