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growth looking thing on throat
growth looking thing on throat
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steves birds
22 posts
Jun 28, 2009
10:27 PM
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One of my birds showed a brownish stain running down it's chest. Looking at it I found what looked like a yellow sist or growth about the size of the end of my little finger. I tugged on it and it popped right off and under it was a hole right into it's neck and seeds were falling out. The thing removed was hard and firm and bumpy.He just finished flying very well and seemed to be fine. I put a little peroxide on it and confined it for a while. Anyone know what the heck it could be? He hadn't eaten for twenty four hours and the seeds seemed matted in the skin.
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fhtfire
1986 posts
Jun 28, 2009
11:42 PM
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It sounds to me like Canker or a form of the canker...was it inside the mounth?....if it is on the outside it could be a cist form and injury....but if it is inside the mouth it could be canker....go to Foys Pigeons supply and call them....they are good about diagnosing stuff and will send you the proper medication..r
rock and ROLL
paul
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J_Star
1991 posts
Jun 29, 2009
7:50 AM
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Steve, this might help you understand what is going on and how to treat it:
Canker (Trichomoniasis) Made Simple
By Jay Alnimer (J_Star) 2007
Canker sores are called also mouth (beak) ulcers. Canker sores are thought to form when, for unexplained reasons, a pigeon’s immune system identifies the presence of chemical molecules that it does not recognize. The presence of those molecules activates an attack by the immune system's lymphocytes (a type of white blood cell). The carnage created by the lymphocytes' attack on these unrecognized molecules results in the formation of the beak ulcers.
Causes can be of many things including:
1. EMOTIONAL STRESS or PSYCHIC STRESS is the number one cause of canker.
2. Nutritional deficiencies: deficient in Vitamin B1, B2, B6, B12 and C.
3. Allergies and sensitivities to certain feed or cereal grains such as buckwheat, wheat, barley, oats and rye, and the gluten protein found in grains.
4. Hormonal change, around breeding season.
5. Genetics, carried from generation to generation.
Pigeons have this permanently and will keep equilibrium until severely stressed. There are two main forms and over forty strains of common infectious protozoa. Throat canker which forms a soft cheesy growth may easily removed with cotton but dipped in aqueous iodine and glycerin, then treated with a standard veterinary cure. Internal Canker affecting various organs and mucosa are treated immediately with veterinary products.
All infected birds should be isolated as it is readily spread to any bird in low condition via the feed or water. Canker does not require routine treatment but maybe monitored by regular clinical inspection of feces and treated only as required. Canker equilibrium imbalance is often a secondary infection to more serious disease and is an ideal, monitor of general health. Therefore it does not make sense to attempt to completely eradicate this protozoan with routine flock treatment but only maintain a natural equilibrium within the immune system. Only treat as a cure for badly infected birds.
Symptoms of the disease:
In adult pigeons and fledglings, there is a noticeable decrease in vitality, reluctance to fly, diarrhea and reddening of the throat. As the infection progresses, “yellow buttons” appear on the palatal mucosa, developing into yellow deposits (Canker). Do not detach the deposits due to risk of bleeding. Nestlings develop an umbilical infection and an abscess is formed which can spread to the internal organs. At 10 to 14 days of age, pungent smelling liquid droppings and the first sign of retarded growth are observed, with the nestlings constantly squeaking for food.
Treatment:
During treatment period, do not provide bath water.
Emtryl is commonly used drug; this product is purchased as 40% water-soluble powder that is added to the drinking water at a rate of one level teaspoon per one gallon of water. Birds should be treated for a minimum of five days and not longer than seven days. One problem with Emtryl is that it can be poisonous. Commonly, birds are overdosed during hot weather or when they are raising youngsters because of their greater need for water consumption.
Ridzol is another product that can be used to treat pigeons or prevention of Canker. Use one teaspoon per gallon of water for five days. Ridzol is superior to any other drug because it seems to be less toxic and more effective than other comparable drugs in the treatment of prevention of Canker.
Spartrix is another product that is used to treat effected pigeons. This product comes in a tablet for individual treatment. Spartrix is very effective product.
Jay
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Squabby*32
25 posts
Jun 29, 2009
8:12 AM
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It sounds like Canker to me. Good luck.
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DJJeffman Spinners
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steves birds
23 posts
Jun 29, 2009
2:48 PM
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Paul, Jay & DJ Thanks for the advise. Your great help and provide a great service to the forum...
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roller alley
136 posts
Jun 29, 2009
9:37 PM
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IF the hole is small aply some super glue to shut it,if it is larger you can stitch it up,good luck LJ
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