George R.
18 posts
Jul 05, 2009
4:43 PM
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This is 'Big Black' he flew in Ron Duncans 2004 NBRC Fall Fly winning kit is he a Champion ??????
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bigwilly
1030 posts
Jul 05, 2009
4:48 PM
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nice animal
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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George R.
20 posts
Jul 05, 2009
5:44 PM
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I dont know Laron , I'm trying to learn . Can you help a Novice out ?
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155
1094 posts
Jul 05, 2009
6:15 PM
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sup George
do Ron Duncans e/mail works? try to get a lil info on a hen that he bred..
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JOSE JIMENEZ AKA EVILLOFT'S
-MESA,ARIZONA-
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Electric-man
2387 posts
Jul 05, 2009
7:12 PM
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Beauty(champion)is in the eye of the beholder!
How does it reproduce?
To me, a champion would have to have the whole package! Background breeding, goods in the air, and be able to produce great offspring!
Being able to reproduce a high percentage of great birds would be the deciding factor to me!!!
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Val
Last Edited by on Jul 05, 2009 7:16 PM
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ROBERT RODRIGUEZ
54 posts
Jul 05, 2009
8:14 PM
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A champion is the greatest of all performers, a bird difficult to obtain but beyond the reach of any fancier who cares to produce one,being able to produce great offsprings!!!! Nobody said it would be easy
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DeepSpinLofts
1475 posts
Jul 06, 2009
11:23 AM
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A TRUE ROLLER MAN'S VIEW OF THE CHAMPION:
My view of a "Champion Birmingham Roller" is a Biogenetically well bred and high class caliber of bird that stands out against every other aerial performer known to man. The very glimpse of a champion roller in the air will be a jaw dropping, heart stopping experience for the onlooker.
In rolling style, the champion should rapidly spin with a lightning flash blur while displaying what looks like a small tennis shaped ball that has a very small hole in the center. Keep in mind that this hole can and will often shrink in size or appearance due to high velocity rolling (rapid spinning).
All champion rollers should spin downwards smoothly for a considerable distance from the kit (of at least 20ft or more), then cleanly breaking out of the roll.... only to majesticly return back to the kit and do it all over again (as quickly as possible)... several times better than it had rolled earlier.
Now folks let us not forget that the presence of the hole indicates true perfection on the spin... and the tighter the spin the better! Without proper spinning, the roller is either rolling inappropriately (too slowly) or the roll is unsatisfactory for champion credentials and these rollers will never achieve what I call championship status.
....time will tell
After say about 14-18 months, a true champion roller has been vigorously tested and is now routinely prepared to control the depth of the spin while descending rapidly from the kit in proper rolling fashion. If there are no accidents (say predators or something else), a "Champion Roller Pigeon" should be able to put on a magnificently marvelous aerial show right up into their ripe old age.
NOTE: Most important is that it must not only be a champion in the air, but the bird must also be a grand champion in the breeding pen with the microgenetic capability to produce a high percentage of quality spinners. That's right, it must be able to reproduce itself (be pre-potent).
From what I've seen over the years, there is no other class of aerial performers that gives so much gleeful joy and rewarding satisfaction to the onlooker as the performance bred Birmingham Roller Pigeon.
.....so
If any of you are ever fortunate enough to get your hands on a Champion Birmingham Roller Pigeon, covet it, for it is dearly worth its weight in GOLD!
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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topnotch uk
676 posts
Jul 06, 2009
2:04 PM
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you guys kill me lol
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Alohazona
652 posts
Jul 06, 2009
4:23 PM
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George,
That bird has the right expression and phenotype to be a good or great roller.Yes,a champion caliber bird must reproduce significantly similar or even better depending on suitable mates.
If the breeder fell short of labeling the bird as a champion,I would imagine there is a good reason for it.
You can sort through the offspring and come up with a reasonable assumption.
There are loft champions,and there are champion of champions.
If that bird can produce exceptional offspring on different mates and these are birds that you would hold on to,disregarding any monetary offer.Truly a bird one could build a stud of rollers on.It would not be a far stretch to call it a loft champion.
If there is is not 1 bird in your loft that is exceptional in the air or in the pen,you are either a complete novice or raising fancy pigeons....Aloha,Todd
The last paragragh was for TOPNOTCH UK,maybe I don't understand the humor in your comment[I am sorry if so].Either you totally don't agree with the above posters descriptions,or are you being smug and self righteous?Surely as your name implies,you have good birds,and/or exceptional ones.Let you be the one to respond.
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DeepSpinLofts
1476 posts
Jul 06, 2009
5:25 PM
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Re: "the right expression and phenotype"
Yes... I would agree!
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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donnie james
554 posts
Jul 06, 2009
7:49 PM
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hay george very nice looking bird he looks like he can handle hes self really well in the air and i want to wish you all the best with him.............donny james
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