steve49
117 posts
Jul 22, 2009
6:08 PM
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i'm sure this topic has been discussed, but i thought i'd ask anyway. can i take a couple of already trained young birds and add them to a new kit so on first release day they'll have a trained bird to guide them back?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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donnie james
587 posts
Jul 22, 2009
9:24 PM
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yeah you can if their hens...........if their cocks they want to drive them to the nest..............donny james
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3233 posts
Jul 22, 2009
9:30 PM
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Steve this is when the fun starts having train birds to train your youngsters.but I do it when I have my already train birds hungry enough so they don't fly high and take the new young one's away plus when that happens the young ones get afraid and pull out and that teaches them bad habits. let the fun time begins.. like Donnie said hens are a good choice.
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
361 posts
Jul 22, 2009
10:12 PM
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Steve... They may guide them right over the trees and houses and? Best to do what you did with your first kit of young. Shake feed can, teach them to trap,put them on roof, no flagging.They will fly when they are ready.When you do get them to go up for the first time and say two are not back , That is the time to put up one or two drop birds and make sure they have not been fed.JDA
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Windjammer Loft
853 posts
Jul 23, 2009
6:25 AM
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I always use birds that are already "homed" when training young birds or settling "new" birds to my loft.
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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steve49
118 posts
Jul 23, 2009
11:32 AM
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well, Paul as you can see, 5 responses, and not everyone agrees. i do understand there might be a risk with already trained birds, as they fly higher and further, and i hadn't thought about that. so, in all honesty, i think i'm better off the way i did it with the first kit, only this time i'll only let out a few at a time. thanks again for all the responses. you guys are really great. this forum is like training wheels for beginners. gotta luv it!
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Windjammer Loft
860 posts
Jul 23, 2009
6:17 PM
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steve49...maybe I should go into detail about what I do using "already homed" birds. I usually take afew that I want to use and feed them more milo and less wheat for a few days,which makes my birds fly alittle lower then normal. I only do this for a couple of days. This helps get the new kit flying. Once the new kit looks good enought for me then,I stop flying the already homed birds and the new are on their own. Hope this explains my technique alittle better..
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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steve49
123 posts
Jul 24, 2009
1:22 PM
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Paul, maybe i should fly my 'A' kit first, and then after they land and are hungry, let the new birds out? i'm going to think about it, and it would be easier to simply allow a few new birds to gently wander out when i open the trap. what's an easy way to allow only 3 birds out at at time? maybe i should take 3 out, and gently place them on the kitbox next to the dayscreen? hmmmm....
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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gentle johnnie
64 posts
Jul 24, 2009
5:13 PM
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Steve I started using a hen with last three flight feather taped with masking tap where she can't fly let her help train young to trap then help with homing setting around on loft and wires until they were ready to fly take off tape and she will train them to come home when called with whistle and feed can shake- Good Luck GOD BLESS!!!
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Gentle Johnnie "Angels of the Sky Loft"
Last Edited by on Jul 24, 2009 5:15 PM
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steve49
128 posts
Jul 25, 2009
6:48 AM
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Johnie, thanx for the idea. i'm ok with the way i did it for the first kit, just thought that since i now have another successful kit, i would explore other options.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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