steve49
132 posts
Jul 27, 2009
8:00 PM
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hey guys, i'm deep into training my two kits of young birds, and am planning on building a breeding loft for next year, thought i'd get some ideas first. i'm guessing 8-12 pair stock loft, with room for feed storage, judging cages and it needs to be able to separate sexes and maybe an odd bird pen, for non breeders or hold overs. i've pretty much figured it would be at least 12x8, but if needed, can be made larger. would hate to regret not making it bigger, but don't want to go crazy just yet.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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TheGame
590 posts
Jul 27, 2009
8:22 PM
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I can help you build it if you like Steve! Here is a pic of my setup which you already saw.
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rookie from ct
GOLD MEMBER
114 posts
Jul 28, 2009
5:40 AM
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Steve my breeding loft is 10x15 and I hope to have 4pair of separat berrders and fosters and I think it is to small Rookie from ct
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
371 posts
Jul 28, 2009
5:44 AM
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Steve.. my floor is 16'x12',two 4'x4'break up pens and two kit pins in the front.Side door into show and feed room.8'x8'. Breeding room I use two 8 compartments crown breeders all divided by 2" slats with doors. JDA
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Jerry Allen
GOLD MEMBER
354 posts
Jul 28, 2009
9:35 AM
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Nice looking loft.
There is a lot to consider, take your time.
Too small: and you will have to add on.
Too big, = more money, time & WORK!!
Sometimes bigger is not better. In lofts any way. LOL
Keep looking on here and the net for pictures.
Some of these guys have awesome lofts, good ventilation,
easy clean up, wood or wire floors, sun lights,
separate compartments for feed & water, so the birds don’t escape.
A permanent loft should take a lot of thought, so when your
finished you don’t say “Ah crap, I wish I would have done that.”
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wa1tmaster
GOLD MEMBER
22 posts
Jul 28, 2009
10:41 AM
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Steve,
mine its a 10x12 with 3 kit boxes in front With 2 stock pens and 8 breeding compartments on the back wall .
hope this helps
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until next time.
THANKS,
WALTER PORCH
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TheGame
591 posts
Jul 28, 2009
11:01 AM
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Walter thats a really nice setup. Well done.
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fhtfire
2011 posts
Jul 28, 2009
11:49 AM
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Here is my addition....
I added a 4th kit box....I will post a finished product tomorrow..
Rock and ROLL
Paul
I like the set up of being all indoors..
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wa1tmaster
GOLD MEMBER
23 posts
Jul 28, 2009
11:51 AM
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Jerry right about thinking it out. I planed for over a month or so.Then took about 4 months to find the birds that i wanted. Will anyhow i just added 4 more feet to mine. The add on was the same as the breeding side. So now 4 walk in kit boxes and 8 more breeder boxes.
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until next time.
THANKS,
WALTER PORCH
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Hifly11
63 posts
Jul 28, 2009
11:55 AM
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I think one of the more important things a loft should have is proper Ventalition and lots of it.
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steve49
133 posts
Jul 28, 2009
12:43 PM
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excellent lofts, and thanx for responding. now, what i really need are floorplans, so i can visualize what goes where and what is needed. so, what is the most important thing that you DIDN"T put in your design that you wished you had? since i have a double kitbox already, i'm not planning on including kit boxes into the breeding loft, for now. i am planning on another double kitbox in the future. i'm still in the thinking/planning stage, as i'm not even sure how many breeders i can handle. i'd rather limit myself, in order that it doesn't become a job. i want it to still be a hobby so that means fun. i do realize that a well planned building will make it MUCH easier to keep clean and healthy. c'mon you guys, pics and floorplans.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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fhtfire
2012 posts
Jul 28, 2009
1:48 PM
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Steve,
I had three kit boxes before(exterior)...and I tell you what...I dumped all those kit boxes and I am glad I did...there is NOTHING better then feeding your birds during a rain storm and being indoors....basically all my feeding is done from the inside and I only open the outside doors to fly....trust me..there is nothing better....I sold my double and single box to a new flier...even moving birds around etc....is soo much easier...and all the boxes are the same...so its easy to train the young birds.
The loft is 14X9...three kit boxes 3x3...so I have storage above the kit boxes for feeders etc...I had a tarp custom made to catch the poop and is hanging from hangers....and underneath the kit boxes...I store the feed. The breeder loft is 8.5 long x 4.5 wide...the hen and cock loft are 4.5 deep X 2.5 wide...and 8' high ceilings...I almost did the same thing but I am glad that I added the kit boxes and took the advice of Brian McCormick and Scott Campbell.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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steve49
134 posts
Jul 28, 2009
3:18 PM
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Paul, all good points, and i certainly could use the present double kitbox and add a couple into the new loft. what did you put in the new addition? do you have a finished pic of that?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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fhtfire
2013 posts
Jul 28, 2009
3:39 PM
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I added a 4th kit box....basically I kicked out one end...except I made it a youngbird box with 30 perches...so it is about 4' wide and three' deep....I will take a photo in the morning and post the addition.
rock and ROLL
paul
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cv rollers
432 posts
Jul 28, 2009
4:10 PM
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Walter-Paul very sharp good job ,did u guys build them yourselves and what was the cost to these nice lofts..p.s. so i can save my money LOL
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Rick Flores
coachellavalleyrollers.net
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fhtfire
2015 posts
Jul 28, 2009
4:34 PM
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I had a companies like tough shed...give me bids...because I wanted it 9' wide and most come 8' wide...it came it at 2000,00 right on the nose for the building...they installed the windows and two sky lights and also framed it so that I could mount my breeder boxes and my kit box doors. The windows (three) were 50.00 total..at a window shop.they were in there for sale bin (extras from a job). The two sky lights were from Homoe Depot for 50.00...and all the interior stuff I did myself...the total for Lumber, Wire, Hinges, locks etc were about 200.00 and the traps were 50.00 each....
so total was about...2500.00 for everything....The floor is 1" plywood...
rock and ROLL
paul
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steve49
135 posts
Jul 28, 2009
6:35 PM
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hey Game, i will definetely appreciate your help building the new loft. and we'll wait till it gets cooler too!
Walt, did you build your loft or is it a store bought shed? do you have an overhead floorplan? looks really great.
Paul, your loft looks awesome, especially the way you incorporated your kit boxes into it. costco has a sweet shed, with a nice cedar shiplap sheathing that smells sweet. i'm thinking it may be perfect, at only 999.00. thinking...
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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TheGame
593 posts
Jul 28, 2009
8:10 PM
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Hopefully im off crutches Steve lol
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wa1tmaster
GOLD MEMBER
25 posts
Jul 29, 2009
6:51 AM
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Steve,
Yes i did build it myself but i just added 4 more feet to the back. now its 10x16. Its like Paul said there nothing like having everything together. Check your Email i send you the floor plans didn't know how to put them on here. Hope thats helps. if not let me know. I better get back to work before the boss walks in. LOL
Later
Walter Porch
------PS That email will be from wporch@tbequipment.com
until next time.
THANKS,
WALTER PORCH
Last Edited by on Jul 29, 2009 7:37 AM
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
486 posts
Jul 29, 2009
8:33 AM
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Steve, Here are a couple of pictures of the loft I put up last year.Paul is correct about the advantage to having everything under one roof, especially when the weather gets nasty. I had Tuff Shed put up the building and then I finished the inside. Basic building is 12X32.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
Last Edited by on Jul 29, 2009 8:38 AM
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
487 posts
Jul 29, 2009
9:36 AM
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Walt,
That is probably because it is a Paul Vaughn based family as was George Reeves.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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steve49
136 posts
Jul 29, 2009
4:22 PM
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Joe, your loft is excellent. i really love the painted interior, so often neglected. these are great ideas, all the better to assist me in mine. thanx guys.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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steve49
389 posts
Jan 21, 2010
2:50 PM
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is it a good idea to have box or v'perches in a breeding loft? i have seen them in pics, but wondered if they just create problems with fighting amongst pairs.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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