macsrollers
158 posts
Jul 27, 2009
8:09 PM
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In 15 years of raising rollers I have prevously had only one case of sour crop, and that was a bird given to me. Recently I have had 2 birds with sour crop. Their crop remains full of fluid. When you squeeze it out it is yellowish green and very smelly. Both birds I ended up culling as they were suffering. I now have another bird- great young spinner, that is showing signs of the same thing. Nothing different in my loft except I had bought automatic waterers out of Stromberg Gamebird magazine. 5 waterers for $50 I thought great deal, But the amount of water in the ring around the bowl is small and I noticed in the Summer it gets smelly and I clean it out every morning. I believe I am going back to my regular waterers, at least thru the Summer. Does anyone know a good cure for sour crop and what causes it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Don M. LVRC
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JMUrbon
735 posts
Jul 27, 2009
9:04 PM
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Don I havn'e seen it in years and not really sure if there is a cure for it. I always thought it was from wet feed and usually when somebody was feeding scratch. Hope you get it figured out. It is brutal on a bird. Joe
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RodSD
302 posts
Jul 27, 2009
9:58 PM
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It is a fungal disease:http://www.siegelpigeons.com/asked-sourcrop.html
I add vinegar on their drinker as normal prevention. I put about 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. I use that once a week.
I've never tried this cure:http://www.jedds.com/Detail.bok?category=ALL&keyword=crop&no=571&searchpath=7718595
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fhtfire
2010 posts
Jul 27, 2009
10:20 PM
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I use Mylanta...for sour stomach in humans....I have a bulb liquid injector that I got from Foys or jeds..and I suck up some good old mylanta and fill the bird up with mylanta....and thats it...gone in a day...I have had a couple birds have it...and used mylanta and it worked fine..an old racing homer guy told me the trick...Pepto bismol will work too..but mylanta is better.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Pali View Lofts
33 posts
Jul 28, 2009
1:20 AM
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This may sound stupid but it has worked for me a few times on chickens. As long as the bird has just started to show signs of sour crop. Get a bar of Ivory soap, mould it into an aspirin sized balls, put it down the birds throat X 3. Watch the bird, it should improve in a day or less. Give it probiotics and it should be good to go. No sh!t, try it!
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toughrollers
196 posts
Jul 28, 2009
3:08 AM
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most likley it is fungal,which RodSD mentioned.give them ACV,FOR TWO DAYS.THEN PROBIOTICS FOR A WEEK.
Toughrollers--Lofts
Ralph
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bman
697 posts
Jul 28, 2009
6:25 AM
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Turn the bird upside and gently empty the crop. Use an eyedropper to give him some baking soda mixed with water. Repeat the next day. Make sure you get it into the crop not the wind pipe. Works every time for me.
i got this tip from Richard Miller.
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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Jerry Allen
GOLD MEMBER
352 posts
Jul 28, 2009
7:17 AM
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Don,
I agree with Paul.
I had one last year and a OLD homer man told me about
the pepto bismal. I laughed at first, but the joke was on me.
I filed a syringe full & gave it to him twice and in two days he
was better and up & flying. I’ll try Mylanta if I ever have another
to see if it works as well.
I won’t mention their name, but a person at a well known pigeon supply
house told me to take a very sharp razor blade and cut the crop open
and squeeze everything out then super glue the cut back together.
The Pepto worked great.
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macsrollers
161 posts
Jul 28, 2009
8:16 PM
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I appreciate the feedback. George Ruiz has some medication for this I am picking up in the morning. I do believe it is the waterers. They are from Strombergs Gamebird magazine. They have a small ring in which the water sits. You figure that the birds drink and it replenishs the water so it will always be fresh. But when it reaches 105 in the shade, where my waterers are situated, I think the small amount of water gets soured very easy. I removed them and am going back to the good old fashioned 1 gallon waterer, at least for the Summer. The only thing that has changed in my kit boxes this Summer is the autowaterer so I will change back. Tried the autowaterers to take the burden off friends when I need them to take care of my birds. The Lil'Giants I have in my stock lofts, breeding loft, and my son's parakeets, chickens and finches. They work fairly well- the hard water is tough on them, but as long as you don't get lazy they work good. Just have to keep an eye on them, replace the needle valves and adjust them now and then, and keep them clean. I think the autowaterers have made me lazy! Another lesson learned the hard way! Enjoy your next fly! Don M. LVRC
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
460 posts
Jul 29, 2009
1:53 PM
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Have two youngsters, I think they are having the same problem, Im going to try the Pepto/Mylanta.
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
Last Edited by on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 PM
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RodSD
305 posts
Jul 29, 2009
11:13 PM
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Find the source of the problem and fix that as well. If I see mold or mildew on my loft I spray Tilex which has that irritating smell. Obviously, the birds are out. I also clean my drinker everyday, spraying it with disinfectant.
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macsrollers
163 posts
Jul 31, 2009
9:52 PM
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Rod. Good post. The real problem is the source, not curing the individual bird. I have stopped using the auto waterers from Strombergs. I went back to my 1 gallon waterers and change them out every evening. Tried medicating my outstanding young bird but it was too late. Again, lesson learned the hard way. I had one more younger bird showing signs. I put it out of it's misery. All the rest of the birds are in good shape and I will not use that type of waterer again. Thanks everyone. Enjoy your next fly1 Don M. LVRC
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