jnyce
788 posts
Aug 11, 2009
5:41 PM
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do you guys believe your birds perform better in a dark kit box ----------
jerry t
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
496 posts
Aug 11, 2009
5:50 PM
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Mine don't perform worth a damn until I let them out of the box!!LMAO
Seriously Jerry, I have tried both ways and never noticed a difference. In a dark box the birds tend to stay quietly on their perches, no heing and sheing, fighting, etc. so I guess that is an advantage but I really never noticed any difference in performance over the total fly period.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
Last Edited by on Aug 11, 2009 5:53 PM
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3260 posts
Aug 11, 2009
5:55 PM
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I'm with Joe on his post..
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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kham89
280 posts
Aug 11, 2009
6:00 PM
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dark kitbox keeps the males off the females back. u wont find an egg...or should i say ur chances are low.
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Kham Thao
Member of the NCRC
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1316 posts
Aug 11, 2009
6:05 PM
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I'm with Joe and Ralph, no difference as far as I can see. I'm flying late in the evening to avoid the B.O.P. so to keep them dark, they have to be in a sweltering box all day, I don't think so. It's light and air for mine.
Thom
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pana
2 posts
Aug 11, 2009
6:27 PM
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I've experimented with various sized kit boxes and darkness, I have found with my birds that performance didn't improve. I currently fly from a walk-in fly box
4x3x6 with out affecting kit formation or performance. I personally think that performance and kitting has more to do with condition and quality of rollers.
New to this forum from Australia, I'm hopeful the members of this list remain friendly and focused to the cause, we all share a fantastic common interest... flying rollers.
Regards to all
Steve
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3262 posts
Aug 11, 2009
6:29 PM
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Welcome Pana,you right we share a common interest and will remain focus..peace...
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1317 posts
Aug 11, 2009
6:32 PM
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Pana, Welcome, we like to talk rollers and welcome different points of view. I'm positive we have much in common.
Thom
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steve49
158 posts
Aug 11, 2009
7:24 PM
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welcome Pana, you'll come to love this place, i'm sure. Thom, i keep my two kits in 'kinda dark' boxes. they can easily see, but usually stay in their box perches. i've got small openings at the top rear and sides to allow for air circulation, as heat rises, it has some place to go. with full southern exposure, the closed front actually is a bit cooler than the front. and yes, i've got a thermometer in the kit box, and on the front of the kitbox. wire floors also help keep extra activity to a minimum, as the birds prefer the box perches over the floor. they do show interest in one another when they are allowed to bathe before eating. hopefully it will be short, as i would then call them in to eat sooner. i also think birds need a bit of light just to keep their bio rythym working correctly, so i'm not in favor of total darkness, but a darker kit box works for me.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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katyroller
505 posts
Aug 11, 2009
7:44 PM
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I've used both and feel that the birds do better for me when they get alot of light and air. I'm in the process of building a new loft and kit boxes which are inside the main loft. I prefer smaller kit boxes 40"Wx36"Dx48"T, to keep the birds on their perches resting.
Tracey
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donnie james
639 posts
Aug 11, 2009
8:26 PM
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hay jerry i tried both ways it seems to me my birds like more light on them then the dark ............donny james
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PAUL R.
77 posts
Aug 12, 2009
11:13 PM
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MY EXPERIENCE, With dark kit boxes, the birds tend to come into the moult quicker than those with more light. In some cases, the birds do come out a bit hotter, but once they are flying for about 2 or 3 minutes, they fly more than roll.
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david94
95 posts
Aug 13, 2009
5:57 AM
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My birds are given loads of space and kept in semi darkness, only allowed full light for a few hours after flying. The semi darkness I find keeps them calm,hopefully? saving their energy for flying and lots of rolling!!!!!!!!!!
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fhtfire
2035 posts
Aug 13, 2009
5:36 PM
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A dark kit box is a wives tale....if the birds are ready to rock and roll..it does not matter if they get more rest in the dark.......and they dont roll any more if it is light or dark...all it does is shock them when you open the door....for that first couple of minutes...to me it is worse..if your birds get amped they may hit the ground....basically I see it like this.....sit a movie theatre for 3 hours then run outside in the day light as fast as you can....what happens to you...your system gets chocked..you cover your eyes until they adjust .....well that shitty feeling you get...well the birds get the same feeling...
Light is good for birds.....I just dont understand why people keep doing things to the birds that is a negative affect and not positive.....
rock and ROLL
Paul
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
470 posts
Aug 13, 2009
5:55 PM
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I can agree with Paul R, The darkness does enhance the moult, The homer guys use this method with young birds in there first race season, Puts the birds through a heavy moult, And the point of this method is to lose there first set of flights so the can retain there second set of flights longer, as for anything else, im with fhtfire.
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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J_Star
2079 posts
Aug 13, 2009
6:54 PM
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It is to avoid having eggy hens flying with the kit and causing a potential damage to their productive system. The darkness of the kit box has nothing to do with performnce. However, when competeing, it is best to darken the kit box for few houres before release so that the birds are rested and relaxed to give a joyfull performance.
Jay
Last Edited by on Aug 13, 2009 6:55 PM
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Ragin Rollers
65 posts
Aug 22, 2009
9:06 AM
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Dark kit boxes,(hummm) Well just my opion but it think that dark kit boxes are mostly used to break down your birds (some birds need to be broke down)This way they are in a dark quiet place that requires little energy. so you could feed them less to break them down, this save the little energy they have for flying only?(Rolling) Just my opion...
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