Sound Rollers
1 post
Aug 23, 2009
1:09 PM
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Hi all, first time poster, long time roller fan. I plan on building a loft in my back yard, I live inside city limits, not down town, in the suburbs, has anyone ever had an issue with that? are pigeons considered poultry? I had rollers when I was a kid and now after retiring from the Coast Guard after 20 years of service this is something I have longed to do.
V/r
John
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shukz
73 posts
Aug 23, 2009
1:22 PM
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Hey sound Rollers, i cannot answer that because i live in SA so i do not no how people react to rollers that side,but welcome to the forum,you defntly came to the right place,im sure it wont be long b4 some1 answers you,and you will learn alot from these people,good luck
SHUKZ(RSA)
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katyroller
511 posts
Aug 23, 2009
1:22 PM
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John,
First off welcome and Thank You, for your service! Where are you located? These days I would say the biggest enemy to pigeon fanciers is H.O.A.'s(home owners associations). Pigeons are not considered poultry although alot of H.O.A.'s will consider them poultry. I live in a community with a H.O.A. and the way they would get around everything is they have a bylaw that states you can not own more than three pets of any kind.
Having said all that, if you want birds I'd say go for it. Just remember to build a well constructed loft, have a good rodent program in place and be mindful of your neighbors. Alot of folks say talk to your neighbors first. I've always figured what they don't know won't hurt them so why give them a reason to complain.
Good Luck,
Tracey
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2742 posts
Aug 23, 2009
1:25 PM
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Check with your city ordinances..........
or u will have a code enforcement knocking at ur door.................lol
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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katyroller
512 posts
Aug 23, 2009
1:30 PM
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John,
I missed the fact you live in the city limits. Like Rudy said check with the city. Fortunately, I've always lived outside the city limits which makes things a little easier.
Tracey
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harrison
1207 posts
Aug 23, 2009
1:41 PM
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Welcome aboard.
I live in the city but I am from the UK and we dont have any regulations on keeping poultry ect..
I hope you solve your issue soon as possible and Could I please say you have found the right place to talk about rollers.
I have found the USA guys to be VERRY KEEN fanciers indeed.
Also if you need any info just use the SEARCH SITE on the tool bar on the right hand side of the page and type in your question.
Bcause every question askd is saved and I am sure any question you need to ask will have been askd by someone els in the passd.
Also everyone is happy for all to answer and join in on there posts.
Good look mate.
Harrison hull uk.
Last Edited by on Aug 23, 2009 1:42 PM
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3304 posts
Aug 23, 2009
2:37 PM
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Sound Rollers WElcome to the site..I hope there is no limits for you so you can enjoy once again these woderful creatures...peace..
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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lproller
24 posts
Aug 23, 2009
3:18 PM
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Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
It would depend on how one defines "poultry".
Strictly speaking, pigeons are not considered poultry. Here's why.
Poultry refers to domesticated fowl birds, and fowl birds are birds such
as chickens, geese, ducks, pheasant, turkeys, etc. The reason those
birds are bunched together as "fowl" is that they are all from the same
avian order known Galliformes.
Pigeons (and doves), on the other hand, come from a different order of
birds, known as Columbidae. Pigeons are part of a larger group of birds
known as Passerines, or perching birds. Galliformes (chickens, turkeys,
geese, ducks, etc.) are not part of the Passerine group.
So, from a scientific viewpoint, pigeons are not considered poultry.
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Sound Rollers
4 posts
Aug 23, 2009
4:18 PM
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Thanks all, I'm just going to go for it. I've looked at plenty of photo post lately and a lot of the lofts look like their in backyards, again thanks for the advice.
P.S. The POULTRY definition sounds like a winner if the city comes down on me. My home dead says no poultry.
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donnie james
654 posts
Aug 23, 2009
4:56 PM
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hay john welcome to the site i'm sure someone can answer your questions on here be sure to ask them.............. donny james
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2743 posts
Aug 23, 2009
4:56 PM
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Again check with your ordinances CITY !
Like my ordinance; says u can have banded pigeons as long as they dont create a nuisance to neighbors and they can have there daily exercise but every state is diffrent...
I checked before i gottem plus i work for the city..........lol
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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katyroller
514 posts
Aug 23, 2009
5:36 PM
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Sound Rollers,
I'd take Rudy's advice and make an anonymous call to the city, I wouldn't give my name or address. If all you got to do is submit loft plans to get a permit, that's easier than paying a fine and having to get a permit anyway. What city are you in? Maybe someone on here knows what your city requires.
Tracey
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Sound Rollers
7 posts
Aug 23, 2009
10:19 PM
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Kat, Rudy
I live in West Haven, Connecticut.
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rookie from ct
GOLD MEMBER
120 posts
Aug 24, 2009
4:46 AM
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Hay Sound Roller welcome to the site an to your new hobby I live in Wtby. and work in NH I don't think you will have any trouble keeping birds in WH but a single call will tell you.You might have trouble with Bld. dept depending if they can see the loft from the road Good luck Rookie from ct Dennis
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J_Star
2107 posts
Aug 24, 2009
5:16 AM
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Troubles come when neighbors start complaining. Keep your operation clean and simple and you won't have problems. The best thing to do is ask your neighbors and tell them about your plans and see if they have trouble with you having birds. Their reaction would tell you allot, for example, who might start some issues down the road. Tell them that this hobby will allow you to stay in your backyard and away from trouble and frequenting bars among other things. They buy that in heart beat. When you build your loft, build it way from your neighbers if possible and make sure that moult feathers are not blown all over the place. Keep it clean to keep flys and rodents away.
Jay
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2009 5:20 AM
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