DeepSpinLofts
1548 posts
Aug 25, 2009
11:51 AM
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I met up with a good old friend who has some birds out of Bob Evans family.
QUESTION: What line of Pensoms does Evans original stock go back to?
Is it #514, #350 or another Pensom?
LaRon... do you know?
Marcus
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
509 posts
Aug 25, 2009
4:02 PM
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Marcus,
The Bob Evans family of birds go back to birds that Mr Pensom exported to this country back before WWII. Most of the birds went back to old time English breeders like Bellfield and others. Mr Evans was pretty generous with his birds and spread them around the country from what I understand. Hope this helps.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
Last Edited by on Aug 25, 2009 4:03 PM
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3757
1287 posts
Aug 25, 2009
4:13 PM
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Ditto - He did have some that Smith bred and also Perkins. They were off of the old imported pigeons as Joe stated.
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DeepSpinLofts
1549 posts
Aug 25, 2009
7:57 PM
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Thanks LaRon and Joe.
These Evans birds.... can you cross them with Plonas, 514's, Jaconettes, Higgins or Norm Reed's stuff? I assume going body type -to- type would be the best angle here.
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Can someone tell me a little bit about Mr. Bellfield's family of birds. I've heard that name before.
Marcus
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Last Edited by on Aug 25, 2009 8:00 PM
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JBow
93 posts
Aug 25, 2009
9:48 PM
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JDA Bill Pensom was not thrown out of the prc club. He Quit and ask that his name be take out of the club because they were going in a different direction then he was. Back then the PRC club went more to show then fly. Jim Bowen
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3757
1288 posts
Aug 25, 2009
11:00 PM
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Jim - He did resign as you stated.
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DeepSpinLofts
1553 posts
Aug 26, 2009
3:37 AM
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Ralph... what a coincidence. Because my friend has a family of yellows that he says are pure Bob Evans stuff.
Hmm.... interesting.
Anyone around here has some photos of the Bob Evans birds?
Marcus
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3319 posts
Aug 26, 2009
8:44 AM
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Marcus go to page 71 in The Birmingham Roller Pigeon book by Wm.H.Pensom and others and you will see a nice strong tight feather muscle yellow Hen...NPA 44,1209 one of the three yellow self hens bred and owned by Bob Evans who will guarantee them to fly ,kit and spin with the average best, The blood of HRC 33-23 Silver Badge Cock, HRC 33-188 Black Badge Hen ,and NBRC 35.-2146 Red Badge cock is behind these birds..as it is written.
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
Last Edited by on Aug 26, 2009 7:11 PM
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XtraDeepRoller
22 posts
Aug 26, 2009
9:44 AM
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Ralph,
You may not know it, but your Dave Szab birds go back to the old Evans birds.
X
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3323 posts
Aug 26, 2009
7:10 PM
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X you right I didn't know that.my peds don't go that far.after two generation it says unknown .. ..good info to know.thx
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
Last Edited by on Aug 27, 2009 5:53 AM
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DeepSpinLofts
1554 posts
Aug 30, 2009
10:00 AM
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Ralph... is that yellow of Bob Evans which is pictured in "The Birmingham Roller Pigeon" book by Wm.H.Pensom... a Badge or Baldie looking bird with white flights & white tail feathers?
I don't see any yellow selfs on page 71.
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Aug 30, 2009 6:26 PM
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3336 posts
Aug 30, 2009
11:25 AM
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Hey Marcus ,looking at it again its a yellow ,flights and tail might be a little lighter shade .but it says its one of the 3 yellow bred by Mr Evans so I assume it is a yellow .hard to tell in book cause the picture is not in color..
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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DeepSpinLofts
1559 posts
Aug 30, 2009
11:35 AM
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Ralph... my book has 131 pages and is published in Black & White too.
Exactly what page is the Evans yellow on in your book?
Marcus
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3337 posts
Aug 30, 2009
6:21 PM
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Page 71 is the last page of the book ..you looking at the wrong book Marcus..there is two book of the Birmingham Roller Pigeon..the one I'm talking about is The Birmingham Roller Pigeon by Wm.H.Pensom and others.Dick Stephen gave me this book in 1999 when I got my birds from him....the book is all white..
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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