steve49
268 posts
Sep 21, 2009
1:52 PM
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i recently was given 5 squeakers, and i have added them to one of my two flying kits (09 birds) with 12 birds. i've just put the dayscreen on top, and am treating them as though they were the only birds. meaning i am going to whistle them in to feed, and repeat this for a few days, while training them to trap. is this basically the best way? i'm reluctant to release them with the older flyers, as i'm sure they cannot keep up, and will get lost. i was thinking of simply pulling the squeeks out and releasing the kit to fly, and then when the kit has returned after flying, THEN put the squeaks out. how does that sound?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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jnyce
800 posts
Sep 21, 2009
3:02 PM
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that sound like a plan young birds will ruin your kit fly them seperate until there giving you the time and kitting together
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jerry t
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steve49
271 posts
Sep 21, 2009
4:56 PM
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hi Jerry, yeah, i know, but since i have no real choice, i'll either have to build another kitbox or move the older birds to the other kit which already has 18 birds. btw, are you in the NYC area? i'm on long island.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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jnyce
801 posts
Sep 21, 2009
5:16 PM
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i had a few late hatches this season i put them in the kit box with the older birds but i dont fly them together and no i live in baltimore md
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jerry t
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3394 posts
Sep 21, 2009
7:28 PM
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Steve this is what I did when I had 4 squeakers 6 weeks old after I Train them with the whistle and to trap I took two across my land and just hold them up looking towards the kitbox with the other one's on top the 2 birds are on my hand one on each I drop my hands slowly and they take off to the kitbox once they go back and forth a few times a couple of days I fly the other kit birds and when I know they just about to land I toss one up and they fly another 5 minutes with the squeakers I do this every day until they get wind and fly 20 minutes .which takes a few days then I fly them with the team and of cause the team that is not rolling yet just doing a flip here and there. I do this when I have a 2 or 3 late hatches..you can also just train those 5 together and like Jerry said make sure they kitting and flying the time then stick them in with your young team...good luck..
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
Last Edited by on Sep 21, 2009 7:37 PM
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macsrollers
196 posts
Sep 21, 2009
9:56 PM
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Adding squeakers in to a kit that is already kitting good and flying a good pattern can be detrimental to that kit. Settle and fly the 5 squeakers some until they are strong on the wing and know how to fly. Then release them as your kit is on the tail end of it's fly and see how they work in. Usually after a week or so they are right with the kit and then they are part of the team. Takes a little more time and effort then just letting them out with your other birds, but proper management is the key to successful development of your young team. The more you change things up on them by adding or taking away a number of birds the more chance of them not reaching their potential as a group. Young birds need consistentcy in flying and feed to be their best. Enjoy your next fly! Don M.
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wannaroll
58 posts
Sep 21, 2009
10:42 PM
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Put them in a open air cage on top of your kit box and let them watch the other birds as they fly through the air, they have great vision and will catch on faster than you think. At the end of the flight let the babies out to fly if they want or watch depending their age or maturity. Make all the birds trap in, including the babies, sometimes with a little help. Use the birds instincts to your advantage. It's all dust and feathers anyway. LOL
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
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pat66
404 posts
Sep 22, 2009
4:19 AM
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Jerry, Do you belong to any local clubs? If not the club I belong to has guys from Penna,and Md. close to you, we fly at least 1 time a month at houses in Md & Pa. would like to ckeck yours out some time
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Pat
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rookie from ct
GOLD MEMBER
144 posts
Sep 23, 2009
6:32 AM
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Steve however you add those new squeekers to your kit make sure you keep a good eye on them they will go light on you with only one feeding per day they need plenty of food to grow, and develop. Good luck with them Dennis
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
2071 posts
Sep 23, 2009
7:57 AM
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Steve,
A good policy is to only add one bird at a time to an established kit and let them fly together for a couple weeks before adding another. Doing that will usually not change the dynamics and flying pattern of the kit. Adding any more can ruin a good kit. If the addition of the new bird causes the kit to start acting up, then pull it and try another.
Cliff
Last Edited by on Sep 23, 2009 7:58 AM
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steve49
272 posts
Sep 23, 2009
3:12 PM
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"Steve however you add those new squeekers to your kit make sure you keep a good eye on them they will go light on you with only one feeding per day they need plenty of food to grow, and develop. Good luck with them Dennis"
Dennis, thanx for this info, i might not have made sure they were eating like they need to, since the rest of the kit is at least 4 months old. if i had another kitbox, they would be in it. what i've done is put the dayscreen on top of the box, and allowed the whole kit plus the babies to spend a week together. i fly my other kit (its a double kitbox) daily, so the new ones are seeing the other kit fly. today i let the older birds out, and held back the babies. when the kit landed, i opened the trap and allowed the 5 babies to wander out. they were much more relaxed with the established birds to show them around. i should have had them hungrier, they all trapped in except one which had taken flight while the others were already down. i'm keeping my fingers crossed it returns by tonite. it did make a few passes over my house, but seemed typically confused on how to land or at least slow down. this was a bad way to do it, but better than nothing.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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