George R.
97 posts
Oct 09, 2009
8:36 AM
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A friend who is flying Turner Birds asked me if I could help him out . He said this is his first Year flying Turner Birds and for some reason the Birds always go up then suddenly they "CORKSCREW' in to the ground .
He said he has tried putting them in a Box and letting them go down the street but it still wont help.
I asked him if it is only one kit that is doing this and he said " NO" all three kits do the same thing.
He said if he cant get them to fly right he said he is going to box up the whole Bunch and drop them of at the local feed store. he said he spent quite a bit of money on these Birds .
Any Help would be appreciated THANKS
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George Ruiz
Last Edited by on Oct 09, 2009 8:37 AM
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Buck
11 posts
Oct 09, 2009
8:59 AM
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Hey sounds to me like he has a feeding problem , maybe starving them down ? Keeping them in the dark for long periods or other "stressing" methods.
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lil_jess
180 posts
Oct 09, 2009
9:15 AM
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Had he try to flag them birds...I used a balloon and it makes then stay up...
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michael salus
66 posts
Oct 09, 2009
10:26 AM
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Have him feed them more, some families need more feed.I have some turner birds and they seem to need more feed. Also maybe letting 5 birds out at a time until they get some height.
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MJ
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katyroller
581 posts
Oct 09, 2009
12:04 PM
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George,
Have your BUDDY join the post so he can give us some first hand details. Sometimes it helps to read a post more than once.
Tracey
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PAUL R.
105 posts
Oct 09, 2009
1:21 PM
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George, Your buddie in need of help, should call the person who he got the birds from. As he may have experience similaritys in the past.
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George R.
99 posts
Oct 09, 2009
7:45 PM
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i just talked to my friend and he said he has tried feeding them up feeding them lesss letting birds out one at a time and changing the feed and all kind of things but the results are always the same "CORKSCREW"
he does not have a computer so there is no way he can even look at these post he just thought that some else may have had this same problem and was able to do something to get the Birds to fly at a decent hight and a decent time . he said they wont Fly no more then 15 minutes or less.
thanks for the advise I will pass it on to him....
he said
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George Ruiz
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katyroller
583 posts
Oct 09, 2009
9:00 PM
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"He said this is his first Year flying Turner Birds and for some reason the Birds always go up then suddenly they "CORKSCREW' in to the ground ."
I am confused are the birds rolling down or are they not wanting to fly? Is this his first year flying birds or is it just his first year flying Turners? You say he has three kits doing this, how many birds total are doing this? You tell me 3 kits and I think 60+ birds.
Tracey
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gentle johnnie
89 posts
Oct 10, 2009
6:43 AM
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I have same problem to start with my Turner birds, they are now 5 mo old and are just now staying up over 20 min. they roll great very deep had a few roll downs but both hit hard but recovered and are flying great now. my problem is that i only have 1 kit box and have young and squeakers in same box flyer's see squeakers on box and want to come down, stop letting squeakers out at same time this has help starting to add time to flying. work on feed amounts mine do better with less feed.
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Ty Coleman
766 posts
Oct 10, 2009
1:29 PM
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These birds are like athletes, a few days of feeding them up will not do it. They need to be conditioned from day one or you will have these problems but you can solve them it will just take time. Once you have set problems into the birds they are hard to break but it can be done. Austrian winter peas will help and flying them 3 at a time will get them up. If the guy has just given up on them tell him to e-mail me. I would be inclined to say it is a handling problem like many others have said.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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Ty Coleman
767 posts
Oct 10, 2009
1:32 PM
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Just read the post about no computer, I'm in the NBRC directory have him call me.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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George R.
100 posts
Oct 10, 2009
2:13 PM
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Thanks Ty and Johnnie!!!!
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George Ruiz
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Mark
56 posts
Oct 10, 2009
4:32 PM
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tell him to try mixing up the kits see if it helps. fly them in groups of 5 and see what happens. look for stable good flyers that don't come down and start to build a team around the good flyers.
Mark
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
2079 posts
Oct 11, 2009
7:12 AM
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George
You can also have your friend call me and I will see what I can do.
Cliff
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Windjammer Loft
966 posts
Oct 11, 2009
7:19 AM
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George R......... has your friend talked to the person that he got the birds from?? That might be a good place to start from.... He may be able to shed alittle more light on this "problem".
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2858 posts
Oct 11, 2009
7:42 AM
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George maybe is the loft managers fault ???
Maybe his underfeeding etc....???
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George R.
102 posts
Oct 12, 2009
10:23 AM
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Rudy thanks for the advice My friend has flown Birds for about 7 years .. He spent hundreds on Birds from Dick Stephens and was not happy that they did not Roll enough .
I told him that if he wants I can breed him a kit of Jaconettes and I will give him the Kit for free.
The Jaconettes are easy to fly and they like to roll so he should have lots of fun with them. all a person has to do is know the basics and they should be able to fly a nice Kit you do not have to be a Wizard to make them Roll LOL.
Thanks for all the advise fellas...
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George Ruiz
Last Edited by on Oct 12, 2009 10:24 AM
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diamondrollers
333 posts
Oct 12, 2009
10:39 AM
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if it was me and the birds are homed in i would box the dam things up and take them a few blocks from the house and make them go up to find there way home. in the past when I've had birds go up circle and come down right away i box them up drive them down the road and release them. this out of there bad habit by making them fly to go home and if they don't make it back then they just culled themselves but I'm yet to loose one with this method good luck to your friend without a name lol
Sal
Last Edited by on Oct 12, 2009 4:58 PM
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Ty Coleman
769 posts
Oct 12, 2009
3:18 PM
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Sal, I'm with you on that one. George the Turners are a very easy family to handle, My wife Tiffany breeds and flys her own line of Turners[Old Yellow Mottle Cock line] and she doesnt spend the countless hours on the phone and the net that I do, lol Do you have the Cook Line of Jacs ? The ones from his family have been way better than any family of jacs I have seen to date.If I was not able to fly the Turners I would try the Cook birds.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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