steve49
298 posts
Oct 09, 2009
12:41 PM
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i've got two youngbird kits composed of 09 birds, of which the oldest are around 5 months old. those that were starting to roll, and one specifically that was fairly frequent, and even reaching 20' has now hardly rolled at all. i'm wondering since i stopped the red wheat/white milo after my region (1B) nbrc fly on sept 18, would overfeeding or being a bit too generous cause this? i was expecting those who were flipping to start coming into the roll a bit more, and some are, but the frequency isn't there, or the depth. since this is the first time working with these birds, they may develop later or my feeding a bit too much may have created this. any ideas?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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lew3015
47 posts
Oct 09, 2009
2:28 PM
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Sounds like they are starting to get boy / girl crazy, would rather set in the loft and play rather than fly. Try going back to your regular feeding routine and see if the birds come back to where you had them, then you will know if it's the milo or not.
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Lew
Last Edited by on Oct 10, 2009 6:22 AM
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
481 posts
Oct 09, 2009
7:22 PM
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Fly them every other day if you havent done that already.
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3407 posts
Oct 09, 2009
8:14 PM
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Tony is right when they start showing in rolling fly every other day..but don't be alarm they do that it comes a time they hold back and resume when time is right ..a phrase they go through...some family will get strong if over fed and fly more than performing.if you have to rest them up for a week with good feed than taper down the last day you going to fly them and see what happens..won't hurt to try.as the question if they develope later Mike will know that since it is his line you flyng.. good luck..
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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steve49
299 posts
Oct 10, 2009
7:05 PM
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thanx Tony, Lew and Ralph. i'm now flying every other day, and cutting back a bit on their feed. i think i created the problem when i added 5 squeakers to one kit a couple of weeks ago. fearing that they wouldn't be getting enough nutrition, i over did it a bit. plus, i was so used to flying every day, plus twice on weekends, i didn't realize i was making them too strong. so, a thinner roller is a better performer? i'm guessing yes. i'll have to discuss this with Mike.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
488 posts
Nov 02, 2009
6:04 PM
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Bump...
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
573 posts
Nov 02, 2009
6:24 PM
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Steve... Are they some what even as cocks and hens? if so can you fly the cocks in one and the hens in the other kit. That will stop that with also you going back to the way you were feeding.JDA
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
489 posts
Nov 02, 2009
6:37 PM
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Steve,
I personally like to play around with my birds and see what there limits are, For the last week ive increased the feed, due to weather being to cold, and yesterday i over feed them, I flew my birds this morning and they totally shut down no activity what so ever, even my best didnt do anything, they flew strong on one wing and that was my excitment lol, and that is just a week of over feeding and not cutting back the feed.
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Tony...
"Color is not an option"
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steve49
322 posts
Nov 03, 2009
5:02 PM
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Tony, thanx for your help. boy, am i a dope, can't even remember where i posted this. ;0
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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ezeedad
1075 posts
Nov 05, 2009
9:04 AM
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Steve,
There is a general pattern that rollers go through. They usually cut back on their frequency at about 6 to 7 months as well as during the moult. Then when they are through the moult they come back in and their performance stabilizes. So don't worry. It can just be a passing phase in the birds development.
Not all birds follow this pattern. There are exceptions. But you can't expect them to roll the same every time you let them out.
Paul G
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pigeon pete
426 posts
Nov 05, 2009
2:26 PM
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At a guess, and I'm often far of the mark but I don't care,lol, at a guess at least 75% of the questions posted on roller forums concerning flying and perfromance problems, are about young birds.
Young birds go through many many phases, and 90% of these phases are frustating for the fancier, but being phases, they then go through that phase and into a different one. The ones that transend all the phases and end up as good rollers are worth the patience that they have sorely tried on the way.
Most questions can be answered by just saying, "wait a bit, all things shall pass".
Pete.
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steve49
323 posts
Nov 05, 2009
3:10 PM
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Paul and Pete, you both bring up some valuable ideas that effect the young birds. plus, i haven't flown any older birds yet, so i have nothing to compare them to at this point. i do remember in july posting here about flying time and sure enough, it was simply being patient and the birds get stronger as they fly more and CAN fly longer. now i'm not worried about how long they fly at all, as i can control that with feed. i'm more concerned with helping them develop their rolling, and it gets harder at each new stage.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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