Sound Rollers
103 posts
Nov 11, 2009
11:50 AM
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Two Coats of paint on the outside and three coats on the inside. I have one question; see the roofing nails sticking though, do think that is a problem?
Roofing nails
John
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nicksiders
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3773 posts
Nov 11, 2009
11:55 AM
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It ain't going to look right until you put some pigeon poop in it.(LOL)
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Sound Rollers
104 posts
Nov 11, 2009
11:58 AM
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Yep, I can't wait, lol.
John
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Oldfart
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1502 posts
Nov 11, 2009
12:08 PM
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Hey John, It came out great! Call me a worry wart but I would insulate and install a ceiling. That would help hold the heat in and take care of the exposed nails.
Thom
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michael salus
77 posts
Nov 11, 2009
1:00 PM
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Looks good!! Somebody did a nice job painting. I agree with the oldfart..lol. and put a ceiling in, it makes it easier to catch the birds and you wouldn't have to worry about the nails. The birds are going to love it!!
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MJ
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roller heaven
97 posts
Nov 11, 2009
2:45 PM
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That is a good looking coop wait till the pigeons go in they will paint it another color.LOL LOL
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BA Rollers
292 posts
Nov 11, 2009
3:01 PM
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Looks real nice, but you need lower wall/floor vents in all four corners. It will help tremendously with the dust build up. Install a few on the upper wall/roof joists too or a whirly circulating vent in the ceiling. Trust me, you won't regret it.
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Sound Rollers
105 posts
Nov 11, 2009
3:05 PM
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Thanks BA Rollers, what should I use for vents on the walls/floors?
John
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Oldfart
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1503 posts
Nov 11, 2009
3:16 PM
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Furnace wall register covers that can be closed would work.
Thom
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Sound Rollers
106 posts
Nov 11, 2009
3:21 PM
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Thanks Thom, I'm going to panel the ceiling, good call.
John
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BA Rollers
293 posts
Nov 11, 2009
4:20 PM
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John I would say your choice of floor vents depends on the critters you have in your area. If you have things like coons, minks, weasels, etc, you would want to choose a sturdy vent assembly with rather small holes. As Thom suggested wall register vents work well and you can close them. I use wire for my lower wall vents as well as 1/2" wire mesh between the roof joists for ventilation. You can visit your local Lowes or Home Depot and see what they have available that you like. I would suggest one in each lower corner of the back wall and at least one in the front wall. Same for the upper corners of the wall. You already have this area framed and ready to be cut out.
Floor ventilation is super critical, particularly if you live in a humid environment. The air movement helps to dry out the floor materials as well as helps to move the dust from the birds and dropping out of the structure.
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steve49
325 posts
Nov 12, 2009
1:38 PM
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just curious, are there possible issues with using a ceiling and wall board, as in critters getting in between the outer wall and nesting in the insulation? mice and maybe insects? John, your handiwork is great, nice paint and i like how you tilted the roof towards the front. are you planning on flying birds out of this, or is it just for breeding?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Sound Rollers
107 posts
Nov 12, 2009
3:14 PM
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Hey Steve, initially I plan on flying from this loft until I select a couple pairs to work with.
John
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steve49
326 posts
Nov 12, 2009
4:04 PM
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John, what do you think about the ceiling, with insulation as Thom suggested?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Sound Rollers
108 posts
Nov 12, 2009
4:19 PM
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Steve I'm thinking about just gluing 1" thick R-Tech Insulated Sheathing flush against the ceiling it will serve to purposes, insulate and cover the nails. No place for the varmints to hide.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=15358-10477-3/4X48X96%20R-TECH&lpage=none
John
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steve49
328 posts
Nov 12, 2009
4:28 PM
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John, now that's an excellent idea! that's perfect, and you don't have to put up another sheet of ply or rock on top of it. btw, your loft looks too nice to actually put birds in. lol
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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steve49
329 posts
Nov 12, 2009
4:29 PM
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hey, why didn't you paint the ceiling while you were at it? IT Looks funny, with the rest being so pretty, and the ply looking so, whatever!
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
586 posts
Nov 12, 2009
4:40 PM
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If you insulate the roof,are you going to cover it with ply or press board?Because that pigeon dust is going to get to you.You need lots of vents and a ceiling fan.Good Luck. JDA
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rookie from ct
GOLD MEMBER
167 posts
Nov 13, 2009
9:22 AM
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John looking GOOD besides a gutter, some vents I would say that you are ready to get some poop in there.Nice neat work. Dennis
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Velo99
2200 posts
Nov 13, 2009
2:22 PM
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What did you use on the floor? It looks pretty tough.
Nice work. A couple of vents to go along with that window oughta do the trick. I gotta add some more to mine and I thought I would have plenty of ventilation. I have about 30 feet of windows and doors. One window opens to the prevailing wind.
If you`re thinking about buying power vents go to walmart and buy those small high speed fans. You can use them instead of paying a lot of money for a powered vent by positioning them in front of the vents. It also allows for adjustments in speed and direction.
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Rocky Lofts
129 posts
Nov 13, 2009
2:28 PM
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great job looking good.
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Cheers, Rocky
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Sound Rollers
109 posts
Nov 13, 2009
3:19 PM
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V99, I used Behr Floor and Deck paint from Home Depot, I hope it works out. It sounds like vents are a big issue, that's my next goal.
John
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Sound Rollers
110 posts
Nov 14, 2009
9:37 AM
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V99, do you use power vents and if so are they on 24/7? Power in Connecticut is expensive.
John
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Velo99
2203 posts
Nov 14, 2009
11:22 AM
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John,
I use a box fan in the "attic" of my loft. The ceiling is wire. I leave it on usually when it is hot and still or when I have the other windows closed. I use it to pull the fluff out of the building. Gonna add a few more vents this winter and put a fan on two of them with a switch to pull the fluff under the loft. I have one closable gable vent and I am going to put another one on the other end of the building. I like to be able to control my vents with a minimum of effort. This loft should last me til I die and I want to make it easy on myself when I get older and crustier. Most of my design is with ease of maintenance in mind. Poop trays and breeder box liners are a great place to start. My next add on after the vents is a "poop chute". Sweep the droppings into a chute that dumps into a bucket outside of the loft. It could very well be incorporated into one of the upcoming floor vents.
BTW my loft is about a foot off the ground.
One word of advice,keep enough portable cages and crates around to be able to empty your loft. Eventually you`ll want to repaint or do something that might require you to pull your birds out of the loft overnight. Kind of takes some long range planning to cover all of the scenarios.
yits
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Last Edited by on Nov 14, 2009 11:31 AM
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steve49
332 posts
Nov 14, 2009
11:41 AM
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could you guys post some pictures of your lofts? its great to hear about ventilation, but pictures are so much better, to get an idea about placement, size etc.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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rtwilliams
GOLD MEMBER
488 posts
Nov 14, 2009
12:51 PM
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Nice looking Loft, You can build on ejust like it for me. LOL
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RT Williams
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Velo99
2204 posts
Nov 15, 2009
5:46 AM
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We`re getting ready for a cold spell and a little snow. I was just out in the loft and was thinking about heat. I use one of those little oil heaters that looks like an old timey radiator. No fire hazard here. If I have it sitting on the floor and have a fan on it will circulate the heat.Then the fluff is a problem because of the windows being closed. If I turn on the fans to pump the fluff out the heat goes with it.
I work in a pretty dusty shop. There are systems that filter out the dust with water. Change the water not the fliter. This gets my creative juices flowing. A small fan and a cheap waterfall pump... Blow the air thru the water produced by the pump.
Recirculation would result in too much hunidity. It`ll have to vent outside low leave the heat in the ceiling and use a small fan to keep it up there. I am just keeping the water from freezing anyway.
Yeah ok just hit me. A small swamp cooler pad panel.
Use the pump and one panel for the filter. The louver effect of the panel will contain the water without sucking it thru the fan I turn it upside down. Hmmm with a little engineering this could work.
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Squabby*32
119 posts
Nov 15, 2009
10:06 PM
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Nice loft. Thanks for sharing.
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