katyroller
653 posts
Nov 25, 2009
10:24 PM
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Nick,
I raised Tipplers for awhile. They are a fun breed but you have to be into what they do to enjoy them. Mine would fly in the pins for up to 5 or 6 hours without any competition conditioning. The turn off with them was that they would "rake" and you would have a hell of a time tracking them. I would occasionally get a youngster that would tumble but they would out grow it pretty quick. I also lost very few to the BOP's.
Tracey
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rolleronnie
58 posts
Nov 26, 2009
2:21 AM
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Ukranian Skycutter sounds interesting! Anyone have a picture of one?
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pigeon pete
439 posts
Nov 26, 2009
2:52 AM
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Once had a Budapester hen but she never flew above a few hundred feet, but I think they are a show breed these days.
Pete.
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ROBERTS5L
1 post
Nov 27, 2009
6:53 PM
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rolleronnie,
If the photos come thru, they're of Ukrainian Skycutters, and Budapest Highflyers.
I fly all my performance breeds portable from the back of my pickup.
Robert
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/ROBERTS5L/200911-09Skycuttersa.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/ROBERTS5L/200911-09Skycutterso.jpg
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/ROBERTS5L/200810-21highflyersj.jpg
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Pinwheel
23 posts
Nov 27, 2009
7:04 PM
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Roberts5l:
what breeds do you fly portable. Im interested as I am trying to fly portable and have troubles starting them up time to time...
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ROBERTS5L
3 posts
Nov 27, 2009
7:21 PM
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Hello Pinwheel,
The breeds I fly from the portable are; Fireball Rollers, Oriental Rollers, Ukrainian Skycutters, Polish Orliks, Doneks, and Greek Nose Divers.
On your (stick the landing) post, where your birds were unwilling to come in.
I train all my birds to load directly into the crates from the loft to go flying, if they don't, they're not hungry enough to go flying.
Plus if train them to self load in to the crates, they'll be less skidish, than if your chasing them around the loft, or grabbing them off perches to go flying.
You might also try using some droppers to bring them down.
Robert
Last Edited by on Nov 27, 2009 7:50 PM
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Pinwheel
24 posts
Nov 28, 2009
5:54 AM
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nice pics, I wish I had that much open space to go to. Id probably be more successful. Its just trees and buildings for me....
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lew3015
66 posts
Nov 28, 2009
6:15 AM
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Nice Ukrainian Skycutters Robert, these look good. I had some of them once, I couldn't get them to fly only 20 ft above the loft than they would set in the tree, I gave them away.
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Lew
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ROBERTS5L
4 posts
Nov 28, 2009
7:11 AM
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Pinwheel,
I live in an Industrial area surrounded by highwires and 60 foot trees as well, the only breed I can fly at the house are my Budapest, because I can look straight up to see them, that's why I fly portable with the other breeds.
Lew,
This is my first year flying the Skycutters, after throwing them up in the air for 3 months, only to have them flutter down.
I got smart; where does the breed come from?
The Ukraine the land of vast rising steppes and prevailing winds.
So flying portable, I loaded them up and drove 20 minutes to some rolling sandhills on the Eastern plains of CO., where there's always a stiff 10mph breeze, and sure enough they were now in their element and for the first time started climbing vertically (as they don't circle) to probably well over 900 or a 1000 feet.
If I were to fly them in town I'd still need some sort of structure and breeze to creat lift, for them to rise on.
No breeze, no lifting land features, no fly, LOL.
Robert
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markw
17 posts
Nov 28, 2009
10:14 AM
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Hi Fellas,
I also live with a very wooded backyard and my neighbor across the street has it wide open for his Homers.
I picked Parlor Rollers because of my situation up until I started reading about people flying birds out of portable lofts.
I now have 5 pairs of Birminghams and plan on breeding them this spring and flying out of portables.
I'm still in the process of deciding how to build a couple of the wafer type of kit boxes. Can you guys share pics of what you use?
Also, my neighbor has a pair of white fantails he is giving me to raise a few for droppers.I know guys use Indian fans but will the regular show type fans work for droppers?
Mark W.
Last Edited by on Nov 28, 2009 10:16 AM
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nicksiders
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3903 posts
Nov 28, 2009
2:29 PM
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Regular Fantails will work as drop birds. Terry Horner in Kansas uses the wafer boxes.....he calls them suitcases. I will see if I can get a couple of pictures from him
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ROBERTS5L
5 posts
Nov 28, 2009
4:08 PM
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This is a wafer I use, a split dog kennel, with a side door, latched drop door on top, and a couple of feeding trays on top for training youngsters.
Robert
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lew3015
67 posts
Nov 28, 2009
5:31 PM
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Robert yes they look sharp, I love how their wings look while hovering. Where i live here in Michigan, is not the proper place to fly them, to many trees, you know what I'm saying, about them flying short and coming right back down, sounds like you have the perfect place to fly. I wish I did i like the birds but I no longer have any more. The little box you have do you keep the birds in it all the time?
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Lew
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Pinwheel
25 posts
Nov 28, 2009
5:58 PM
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Do the birds land on that no problem? Because mine seem to act as if they have never seen the kitbox before once they get up and flying, but will chill out on it all day, take a bath on top of it, trap etc. After spending the night on top of a stadium they came hauling in when i came back but still hesitant for a few loops. any ideas
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ROBERTS5L
6 posts
Nov 28, 2009
8:39 PM
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Lew,
The birds live in a regular walk in loft.
When the birds are young and able to fly up to a perch, the box is placed in the loft, it is the only place they are allowed to eat.
It's then a simple matter of opening the loft doors and moving the portable box increasing distances across the lawn, and from there out to your local soccer field, parking lot, open space etc.
My loft manager training birds to portable box.
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lew3015
68 posts
Nov 29, 2009
10:24 AM
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I love your loft manager, I have one a little smaller that is earning his wings, Robert I take it you set the box in the loft at all feeding times, if your not able to fly for time do the birds get lazy on you?
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Lew
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wannaroll
98 posts
Nov 29, 2009
10:01 PM
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Thos picture are sooo... cool
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JBow
133 posts
Nov 29, 2009
10:42 PM
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Robert Nice just absolutely Nice Jim Bowen.
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ROBERTS5L
7 posts
Nov 30, 2009
7:16 AM
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Lew,
There are times when I've been unable to fly the birds to the portables consistently, I wouldn't say they've ever gotten mental lazy, but they will tend to lose their physical edge.
One thing about flying portable; your birds have to be well conditioned to the routine, and fed the proper amount of feed.
It's a fine line between having your birds to hungry and not doing their flight times, or birds not willing to load up.
Nobody wants to stand around waiting on undisciplined birds to load so you can fly the next kit.
The one thing about portable flying; is you really get to know each individual birds idiosyncrasies, better than loft flown birds.
I'll also fly more than one kit at a time, putting the highflying Orliks up first, letting them pin out, then releasing a lower flying breed underneath them.
Most bypassers who witness the kits flying, and stop to ask questions, are usually stunned speechless when I call them down.
They leave with a completely different view about pigeons.
Robert
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markw
19 posts
Nov 30, 2009
3:38 PM
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Great stuff Robert! This all takes me back when I was a kid and had about a bunch of different breeds rollers, modenas,homers,etc. I'd let them free loft all day and when I came home from school and whistled them down to eat bread some of the rollers would climb right on my arm to eat it out of my hand.
I turned 45 yesterday and can't wait to experiance all this again!! Maybe just with BR's or FOR's this time around,LOL
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3595 posts
Mar 11, 2010
5:03 PM
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Pinwheel brought this back so you can see you come a long way from when you started . :)
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