nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
3988 posts
Dec 28, 2009
1:52 AM
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There is some talk about having a fly competition for Master Flier recipients on another list. Do you have an opinion about this? Do you think it ought to be sponsored by the national club?
What if all Master Flier recipients where given a bye from the regional fly competition and where placed in the finals? Do you think that is a worthy thing to do?
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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turkey buzzard
142 posts
Dec 28, 2009
7:43 AM
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I really don't care about them flying in a seperate fly. But I would argue that we would never have enough money to support a fly without their money. I would then want to develop my own region an become a Master Flier to be exempt from the tariff!!!
This must be on Earls List an I know who probably is starting this BS.
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Scott
2746 posts
Dec 28, 2009
7:45 AM
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Nick..when you first heard of this was the first heard of it..Mee was very clear in pointing out that it had nothing to do with the Nationial Fly and it would be flown at a seperate time.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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J_Star
2214 posts
Dec 28, 2009
8:37 AM
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Let us take the local club points away from those Master Flyers and lets see who is left to be a Master Flyer!!! They changed the rules after they got there so only them be in the elite club for a long period of time.
As I become more involved in the NBRC and the flys, I start to see and smell the crap all around. How sad.
Jay
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Mongrel Lofts
632 posts
Dec 28, 2009
8:59 AM
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Jay,
BMC broke it down and there are only 2 master flyers that would be effected if you removed club flys. Most of us got in using the nationals and WC flys. Only Kevin Mcray and another guy, can't remember who would lose MF status ifd you remove all club fly points. I think a fox smells his own crap first! LOL. KGB
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Scott
2750 posts
Dec 28, 2009
9:00 AM
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They took out the club flys long before any of you were even around (with good reason)...it is clear who is only there on club flys.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
Last Edited by on Dec 28, 2009 9:01 AM
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Mongrel Lofts
633 posts
Dec 28, 2009
9:02 AM
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Jay,
BMC broke it down and there are only 2 master flyers that would be effected if you removed club flys. Most of us got in using the nationals and WC flys. Only Kevin Mcray and another guy, can't remember who would lose MF status ifd you remove all club fly points. I think a fox smells his own crap first! LOL. KGB
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
2264 posts
Dec 28, 2009
9:46 AM
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This suggestion evolved during a discussion in which many Master Flyers and veteran flyers were recommending tightening up rules for scoring. This "rasing the bar" would have little impact on the veteran flyers, but would have more effect on the entrance level flyers who are struggling to get a kit in the air and compete. I suggested a fly for Master Flyers with the bar set at the standards we, so often, hear them pushing......H style only, speed fast enough that revolutions are invisible, 20-ft. minimum, simultaneous and instantaneous breaks only, no outbirds. This would have a similar impact on the standards under which they compete. The Master flyers could be scored by the finals judge when he arrives in each region, to keep costs down. The most points win. It was actually done, tongue in cheek, on my part, to make a point; but then we discovered that others had been having similar discussions about a similar competition completely separate from the NBRC or World Cup. It's pretty much all talk at this point.
Cliff
Last Edited by on Dec 28, 2009 9:47 AM
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
647 posts
Dec 28, 2009
10:05 AM
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Cliff... I thank your problem is that you thank in speed not velocity and style.JDA
Last Edited by on Dec 28, 2009 3:30 PM
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winwardrollers
380 posts
Dec 28, 2009
10:10 AM
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Cliff
Can you bite that tongue when it is in your cheek once in a while.
bwinward
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Scott
2752 posts
Dec 28, 2009
10:32 AM
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Cliff..the first that I heard of this standard being pushed was when it was brought up the other day..what is this "so often" ?
(I suggested a fly for Master Flyers with the bar set at the standards we, so often, hear them pushing )
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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J_Star
2217 posts
Dec 28, 2009
11:41 AM
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KGB and Scott, Thanks.
Jay
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donnie james
854 posts
Dec 28, 2009
7:25 PM
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hay nick,
i think it should be on the national and local level but also think that the national club(s) should have a certified program as well as local club...........i could be wrong on my thinking ...........
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Donny James
"Fly The Best And Cull The Rest"
"Saying One Thing;Doing Its Another"
"Keep Your Head Planted In The Sky And Wings Spanned Wide"
1996 Piedmont Roller Club Lifetime Achievement Recipient
Portsmouth Roller Club Participation Award System Recipient 1994 '96 '97 And 2000
2001 Limestone,Ohio Sportsman's Club Lifetime Member Recipient
2002Portsmouth Roller Club Certified Judge
2004Portsmouth Roller Club Lifetime Member Recipient
"Miss Portsmouth"NBRC/90/J311 Rusty Dun Check Self Hen First Bird To Get Certified In Portsmouth Roller Club History With A Score Of 53 Judge By Joe Roe The 1993 World Cup Winner And John Bender The 1994 World Cup Winner
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Mongrel Lofts
635 posts
Dec 28, 2009
7:36 PM
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Cliff,
The only one pushing your made up standard is you! Just because we don't want axle winged culls scored. Does not translate to this H style blurred only standard. The only one you can hood wink with this garbage are the people who don't fly or pay attention anyway. Oh, and maybe Nick! LOL. KGB
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
2275 posts
Dec 29, 2009
10:12 AM
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Why lie, Kenny? Are you hoping to pull the wool over the guys' eyes here, that don't follow Earls List? Now you are up to your old tricks, again! LOL! You know that Joe Bob Stuka and Rick Mee are among some of the other veteran flyers who have been fighting hard on Earls List and believe that the minmimunm standard for scoreable performance should be set at the axel wing roller! I think they can be considered as someone who "flys and pays attention" as you put it.
Cliff
Last Edited by on Dec 29, 2009 10:14 AM
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