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Jan 06, 2010
9:28 AM
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George R.:
It took me awhile to find this, but as no one has answered your question, I will print what I have found.
" The Canton Ohio Roller Club was formed in 1938.
During 1963, a committee consisting of Herald Beall, Roger Baker, Joe Quinn, Wally Fort, Bob Hayes and Dick Sautters were given the task of writing our present fly rules. This was not an easy job as the members were divided. Some members preferred a 20 bird kit scoring turns and others wanted an 11 bird kit scoring individual spins. By a margin of 1 vote, the 11 bird kit was adopted."
-- Walter Harter, APJ, May, 1985.
I am not surprised that no one wanted to answer, as discussing the 11 bird fly and the 20 bird fly is like arguing religion or politics, you can't ever win.
Having said that, I myself prefer to breed for individual spinners, as small and fast and tight spinning and kitting as I can get them. A lot of fanciers breed for birds that are deep and select the ones who break together to breed from, which will hopefully breed them a kit which all breaks together, rather than peeling off magnificent individual ( or all together ) spins.
I know,I know, some of the the 20 bird fly adherents are trying for both super tight and fast spinners as well as the breaking together to score turns.
This kind of reminds me of the Pensom Roller Club among others, in the 60's and 70's that went show crazy, with the excuse that they were breeding for "dual purpose rollers" and not just selecting their stock for show qualities, or color breeders who say they only select the best rollers for their color projects.
Neither camp is right or wrong in my opinion, it's just two different points of view and what you want to strive for in your own kits.
I will close with some advise to someone who wants to be competitive in this sport:
"Let the competition take care of itself and breed for only the very best individuals possible.
Turns are not a sign of quality but rather a method for scoring. Turns can be a good thing or a bad thing." -- W. Carl Hardesty, in the book: Keys to Flying Compitition Rollers.
My advise: "Don't eat the yellow snow." LOL
Whatever camp you are in, it's still the best hobby in the world!
George Dring
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