PAUL R.
133 posts
Jan 05, 2010
3:15 PM
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Is it possible to creat a new line of roller with 2 birds? Geneticaly speaking, can it be done. When I say a new line, I mean just a complete different bird. Example: if breeding say 2 diff pure roller birds and then down the line you have a fantail or a oriental roller. That would be a new line of a roller bird.
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quickspin
1095 posts
Jan 05, 2010
3:26 PM
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You should not get a Fantail or a Oriental if breeding from two pure Birmingham Rollers at all. But now in days you don't know what some cross them with.
If you get a Oriental Roller and cross it to a Fantail will that shold be a different line.
Paul, your a master in Genetics you know the answer better than us.
Is a trick question right?
Roller= Birmingham Roller, Turkish Tumbler, West of England, Oriental Roller, Toghie Tumbler to name a few.
Cross any of this two and it's a new line of rollers. So yes it's possible.
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Last Edited by on Jan 05, 2010 3:48 PM
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donnie james
873 posts
Jan 05, 2010
4:38 PM
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hay paul,
that would be a wrong thing to do because your putting 2 different breeds together and their ain't pure breed birds.........
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Donny James
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PAUL R.
134 posts
Jan 05, 2010
4:39 PM
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Im no expert in genetics. You sure gave me a good laugh. Do I know the answer I think I do, but never done on birds. As far getting a fantail or Oriental was just to point ( a different bird ). The new bird would be a roller in this case.
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
4014 posts
Jan 05, 2010
5:26 PM
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You could say you have a new breed of Fantail or a new breed of roller, but you could never say you have a Birmingham Roller.
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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wishiwon2
270 posts
Jan 05, 2010
5:32 PM
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It could happen. Where do we think fantails or orientals came from initially (differentiation proposed and described by Darwin). Who knows how many generations it would take. A mutation could occur right away or never, it would be a random occurance.
It would require selective breeding to maintain or establish it. Unless there is a survival benefit of have additional tail feathers there would be no selective forces to select for that trait naturally.
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Jon
If it were easy, everybody would do it
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PAUL R.
135 posts
Jan 05, 2010
6:50 PM
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Jon I think you are in the right track...... Mutation.....Im hoping that some of the Master Breeders out there, share some light on this subject. Whether by first hand experience or heard or read of it.
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