pigeon pete
491 posts
Jan 16, 2010
3:41 PM
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The Pensom Sheild is an inter-club competition between two kits.
It is for young bird kits and the flyers represent the All England Roller club, and the Midland roller pigeon Club.
It is usual for each flyer to be the Yb champion of each club that year.
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pigeon pete
492 posts
Jan 16, 2010
3:49 PM
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Oh and when I judged it in 2005 I was told it hadn't been flown for for a year or two, but the above list seems to contradict that.
Either it was awarded without a fly-off, or it was a just presure tactic to get a judge ( please stop the fly dying off)lol.
Pete.
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pigeon pete
493 posts
Jan 16, 2010
3:52 PM
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The Pensom Shield is just one of many English flys.
When you count all the trophys from all the competitions, Bob Brown is still an all time winner.
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Canspinners
327 posts
Jan 16, 2010
4:24 PM
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Pigeon Pete , I have a family of Bob Brown Birds which were imported in the late seventies by Jay Lucarelli. He set up his coop ,breeding boxes # identical to BoB browns coop . So far I am very happy with the birds its been about 5 years and they spin well. However I have not seen many other families of birds in the air .
What I have seen on Video seems to be about the same ?
Can you give me your objective opinion on the Brown Family of Birds ?
For the amount of critisim received about his birds he sure seemed to win a lot
Your opinion would be appreciated
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nicksiders
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4060 posts
Jan 16, 2010
4:37 PM
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Pretty well explains why Bob Brown is in the NBRC Hall of Fame doesn't it?
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Canspinners
328 posts
Jan 16, 2010
7:07 PM
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Yeah he got in eventually thanks to the nbrc for their recognition of him.
I never here anyone talk about his family of birds seeing they were such winners .
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ezeedad
1090 posts
Jan 18, 2010
3:27 PM
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Thanks a lot for sharing this ionformation. There should be some way that we here in the U.S.can find out more about what's going on "across the pond". I would like to know more about Bob Brown and many of the other English flyers... Not to mention other European, South African and Australian flyers too..
Paul G
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pigeon pete
494 posts
Jan 19, 2010
12:22 PM
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Bobs Birds have done well for just a few fanciers.
I don't know personally of anyone still flying Bob Brown birds.
I was told many times that they were very difficult to manage.
I bought a couple of birds off him to try, but I was not too impressed with the birds them selves or their offspring. Too many rolldowns, and variable results all round. maybe i didn't buy the right ones as I didn't see them fly and bought them by his reccomendation. At the time I was looking around the fancy for a good outcross, but that wasn't it.
They say if the genes are there you can breed off poor pigeons, but that was not to be in my case.
Bob won the rosebowl for champion individual twice in close succession and so he paired the two champions together and two of ther birds I bought were off that mating.
My friend bought some after Bob died, but he only kept them a couple of seasons.
Bob was a master flyer and could get the best out of his birds. I have spoken to guys who lived near to him and all sorts of stories surround Bob.
They say that if you visited him anytime unexpectedly, most likely his birds would hardly roll, but come competition day they would be on fire. How much of this is true I don't know but one prominent fancier, now deceased, swore that bob gave his birds 'something' to keep them calm between competition flys. He also said he had seen boxes of the stuff in Bobs shed.
Although it doesn't prove anything, i did read an article by Bob in which he stated he could cure a rolldown by giving it a well known 'one eyed cold' capsule. I also heard that this product was withdrawn from sale due to misuse by dope heads. All this is hearsay on my part of course.
I do know that on the occasions I visited Bob (one of them not a competition day) Bob flew some very active deep, fast spinning rollers. The kits Bob flew were, I would estimate, a good 10ft+ deeper on average than most competition kits I see today.
I visited a fancier in the Midlands after Bob had passed away who told me his birds were pure B Brown.
The kit he flew were every bit as good as Bobs in the roll, maybe a little shorter, but they kitted tighter
and they did a nice tight figure of eight. They also seemed quite stable from what I saw.
This fancier had worked on these birds for 20 years, kept them pure and maybe even improved them a little.
Bobs birds seemed to range away from the loft a little (maybe the terrain/weather)and were not the tightest kitters. When I saw bobs pigeons,he always had the odd bird or two that needed hand lauching to avoid rolling down on exit. He had the high landing poles as well, which must have saved a few when coming in to land. The guys who knew him well could tell you more.
Pete.
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pigeon pete
495 posts
Jan 19, 2010
12:32 PM
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I might add that Bob Was one of lifes characters, and somebody should have written a book about him. Not neccesarily your standard pigeon book, but a biography. Some of the stories I've heard would have made it humourous, interesting, and a good insight into an unknown world for those not familiar with the roller Hobby.
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