Hector Coya
621 posts
Jan 27, 2010
5:51 PM
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This is an old thread from the UK forum,,,
I was the secretary to the National Birmingham Roller Association for 10 years and also the Co ordinator for the World Cup Fly in Europe. I have seen Gordons birds many times over the years, as I went on every National and World Cup Fly taking the judge round and scoring for him. Gordon flew some of the best birds I have seen in England. Thinking back I think he won through to fly in the Nationals every year I was secretary and won it once, which takes some doing as you are flying against the best fliers in England. You see more crested birds in the North East of England but they are all over the place. I flew Peter Harper and Phil Calver birds and their birds though out the crest as they were the same strain of roller. I have been to Canada,America,South Africa,Holland and Australia to judge kits and seen crested birds in all countries.
I know live in North Cyprus at Esentepe, so I no longer keep rollers but still keep in touch with the lads and check out the roller sites most days.
Keep Em Flying
Paul Lee.
j .wanless
360 posts
Aug 17, 2008
4:27 AM hi hector
like paul lee said gorden daffurn is always near the top in england.i judged his birds in the aerc a few years ago some very nice birds.paul has probaly seen them more than anyone over the years.as for the crests there is a lot in the uk.i personly seen them 1st time 30 years ago at graham dexters.ive never bred one + if i did i would kill it i hate them.ive seen some roll really well but they have no sence at all.so i would advise you to stay clear of them.
Last Edited by on Jan 27, 2010 5:53 PM
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Scott
2836 posts
Jan 27, 2010
7:05 PM
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Jay.. no not hearsay... nor did Bill know about this site at the time.
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FullHouse763
6 posts
Feb 19, 2010
9:58 PM
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Hey Scott,why the crested birds that hector posted, looked like a cross based on his markings and station?
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Scott
2888 posts
Feb 21, 2010
9:42 AM
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Check out show breed pictures and play match up.
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Scott Campbell
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Last Edited by on Feb 21, 2010 12:42 PM
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Hector Coya
633 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:42 PM
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FullHouse,You have to understand something ,,anything that is not out of Scott's loft is a MUTT.
I guess there inst any Blue check Badges in the true rollers,because i have about 4 others that have the same marking and should be pure because they came out of my Bob Scott pairs,but now i have doubts,,LOL
Hector Coya-SGVS
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nicksiders
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4160 posts
Feb 21, 2010
6:32 PM
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I can't stand it any longer. Those birds in the first pictures are obviously recent crosses. It is more than just the crest. Rollers don't stand like that and are not marked like that. And with a little research you can find the breed that more closely resembles them.....they are not Birmingham Rollers.
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Hector Coya
634 posts
Feb 22, 2010
6:50 AM
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You are absolutely right,
Ive never seen a Roller with those markings. And the stand on any picture is determined on patience in getting the bird to stand upright for the picture,
I can take 10 picture of the same bird,and it will look like a different bird in at least half.
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Hector Coya
640 posts
Feb 22, 2010
5:37 PM
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Pure Red Headed Hen line,but put muffs on it and its a west of England ,now i see what you mean,,LOL
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nicksiders
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4163 posts
Feb 22, 2010
8:10 PM
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http://static.keebali.com/pigeons.biz/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/2/birmingham_roller_white_pair10.jpg
http://www.bertsingleton.com/images/Blue-check-cock-bsloft-gd.jpg
http://www.bertsingleton.com/images/Billings-squeak-web.jpg
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Last Edited by on Feb 22, 2010 8:16 PM
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Hector Coya
641 posts
Feb 22, 2010
8:27 PM
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Nice looking birds Nick,,,
Nothing wrong with those birds,although they do come in more colors than those,those do look nice.
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Hector Coya
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Hector Coya
642 posts
Feb 22, 2010
8:41 PM
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2generations off 1375 J L Smith he is 15 years old still fertil,hes father was a 1983 and grandfather was JL SMITH 1967#1375,
i do have some pure stuff you if your just wondering what im doing with the crest.
I also have a great great grandson to JL SMITH 67 # 1315, wich Bob Scott gave me the last son of 1315 ,I bred him until he was 17 and lived to be 19 years of age
Hector Coya
Last Edited by on Feb 22, 2010 8:45 PM
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JDA
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708 posts
Feb 22, 2010
8:54 PM
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Hector...All my red headed hen 58 NBRC 255 stuff came from her son 63 NBRC 3819 Pensom,s Neither Cock.JDA
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Hector Coya
643 posts
Feb 22, 2010
9:10 PM
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My Redheaded hen stuff come from 855 a daugher of 255 wich Bob Scott had.
Thay are great birds.
Hector coya
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