macsrollers
255 posts
Jan 27, 2010
10:32 AM
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As I start cleaning my breeding loft and individual pens, another breeding season starts and I have yet to find the perfect feeder. Now I know the best way to not waste feed is to only feed what the birds will eat right away and then go feed their babies, but not all of us have the time available so we must free feed in some form or another. I have made feeders from tupperware and containers from the 99 cent store and some have worked OK. But I am looking for the perfect spill proof no waste feeder. Have any of you discovered such a feeder and can you share with us if you have! With the price of feed we all could use help not wasting any feed. This is for individual pens and breeders. Kit birds are no problem for me as no grain is left behind! Thanks Don M. Mac's Rollers LVRC
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1618 posts
Jan 27, 2010
10:37 AM
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96oz. OJ container with a 2 inch hole cut with a hole saw or sharp knife. I make the hole at two inches up and center to fit my Crown Breeding cages. They still waste a little but nothing like before.
Thom
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donnie james
903 posts
Jan 27, 2010
11:47 AM
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hay don,
one of my old club member used a 1/2 (half) gallon milk container and he cut it about 4-5 from the bottom and his birds didn't wast so much
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Donny James
"Fly The Best And Cull The Rest"
"Saying One Thing;Doing Its Another"
"Keep Your Head Planted In The Sky And Wings Spanned Wide"
1996 Piedmont Roller Club Lifetime Achievement Recipient
Portsmouth Roller Club Participation Award System Recipient 1994 '96 '97 And 2000
2001 Limestone,Ohio Sportsman's Club Lifetime Member Recipient
2002Portsmouth Roller Club Certified Judge
2004Portsmouth Roller Club Lifetime Member Recipient
"Miss Portsmouth"NBRC/90/J311 Rusty Dun Check Self Hen First Bird To Get Certified In Portsmouth Roller Club History With A Score Of 53 Judge By Joe Roe The 1993 World Cup Winner And John Bender The 1994 World Cup Winner
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JDA
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663 posts
Jan 27, 2010
4:46 PM
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Thom.... That fits in the center compartment?Can you show a picture?Thanks Joe
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Oldfart
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1620 posts
Jan 27, 2010
6:00 PM
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Hey Joe, it fits exactly in the center compartment. I will post a picture in the morning.
Thom
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polarbear
63 posts
Jan 27, 2010
7:42 PM
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I have individuals that are 36in long 24in high and 24in deep. I use one gallon milk jugs with a hole cut out about 3 or 4 inches from the bottom, for feed and water.
In the crown cages I had which I think are alittle small I put a piece of 2by4 under the feeders and water containers. A few pairs still threw the feed out so I put a 4by4 under them and it worked great.
Another option is get some containers that have a lid on them that have a small hole in it to reduce waste. The cheap solution is go to the dollar store and see what they have with lids that might work, and cut a hole in the top.
Good Luck.
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Oldfart
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1621 posts
Jan 28, 2010
6:01 AM
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Hey Joe here are a few pictures, notice how snug the fit is but it is still very easy to remove the jug for refilling. I also cut two opposing holes at the level of the horizontal bar. I place one of the cups that came with the cage in first to line the holes up with the vertical bars.
 oe, Here are a few  pictures.
Thom
Last Edited by on Jan 28, 2010 6:07 AM
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bman
746 posts
Jan 28, 2010
6:43 AM
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The half gallon milk containers work the same way in the crown cages. Hey Thom how's things on the river.
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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Oldfart
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1622 posts
Jan 28, 2010
9:04 AM
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John, flycontroline@yahoo.com
Thom
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1623 posts
Jan 28, 2010
9:06 AM
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Hey Ron, It's fine here except for the darn B.O.P. I still see them everyday! :(
Take care
Thom
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rookie from ct
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220 posts
Jan 28, 2010
9:43 AM
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Thom you have pairs on eggs already you must have heat in your garage good luck with them, and nice idea for the feeder thanks. Dennis
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Oldfart
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1624 posts
Jan 28, 2010
11:05 AM
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Hey Dennis, Yes I heat the loft with a small electric oil heater, shaped like a radiator. It costs about $10 a month but I have a good crop of youngsters with no losses from the cold.
Thom
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JDA
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665 posts
Jan 28, 2010
1:20 PM
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Thom... Thanks for the picture,looks good.Joe
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Windjammer Loft
1066 posts
Feb 07, 2010
1:03 PM
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Hey Thom....now that I found the jugs, looks like I got start drinking alot more "OJ".....lol. We don't have the orange jugs of milk sold up here, only the white plastic but,they are "too" thin.....
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Feb 10, 2010 3:41 AM
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Oldfart
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1629 posts
Feb 07, 2010
1:21 PM
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Hey Joe, I'm sorry, I missed your post. I had some issue with infertile eggs because of the wire floors. I leave the boards in until they lay both eggs and then take them out providing a stable platform for them to mate on. I clean the boards daily with a 4 inch putty knife and a small plastic dust pan. The birds are so used to me they hardly pay any attention.
Note: Joe, I thought about the youngster you lost. Could it be the parents culled it? I tried to save a squab the parents let get cold. I thought it was because they were first timers. I warmed it in a towel, hand fed it until it seemed stronger then replaced it back in the nest. The cock promptly killed it. The next round went just fine, no sickness with two healthy squabs. I never knew why and it never happened again. Sometimes nature decides for us. I also heat my loft with a self contained electric oil heater. It costs about $10 dollars a month to run in a 12x12 foot loft with 7 foot ceilings, worth every penny! :)
Paul, The O.J. is free when you get the container! That's what I told my bride anyway! :)
Thom
Last Edited by on Feb 07, 2010 3:47 PM
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Windjammer Loft
1068 posts
Feb 10, 2010
3:29 AM
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Thom... maybe I should get a jug of "Vodka"?? It might help empty the OJ jug faster....lol. With all the "snow" that we got dumped on up here in the past couple of days (about 18" with drifts of 3-4ft) and temps down in the single digets. Looks like I'll be waiting awhile to put the birds together... Iam hoping to put together 4 pair of Ruby's.. Didn't you get hit with any white stuff down their this week???
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Feb 10, 2010 4:41 AM
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Oldfart
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1633 posts
Feb 10, 2010
4:21 AM
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Hey Paul, We have about six to eight inches with ice on top, with more on the way! :( On the bright side, we have electricity and heat and that's more then a lot of folks. I'm driving the hens crazy checking for eggs! :)
Take care
Thom
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Windjammer Loft
1072 posts
Feb 10, 2010
4:40 AM
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Mornen Thom... we got dumped on late yesterday and last night with about 6 more inches or so. The storm came up from the south.... I was working in the loft all day yesterday trying to get things ready for my breeding season. You know the scene... getting all the feeders and waters together, writting down all the band #'s and what cages they will be put in,putting the liners in the trays. And then, finding out that you were short on hens or cockbirds.. And then desiding what date this should all take place... Oh well what a "great" hobby...lol Never a dull moment
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Feb 10, 2010 4:42 AM
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JDA
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677 posts
Feb 10, 2010
7:28 AM
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Thom...Do your Ruby,s show 644D hen on there Pedigrees? I have her on the 6 original Ruby,s from Tony and she does give you something to look at of the youngsters out of them.Hope I can get and keep a kit of 20 plus birds out of them this season.Sharks with wings took 10 last season. P.S Paul this question is for you also.JDA
Last Edited by on Feb 10, 2010 7:31 AM
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Oldfart
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1635 posts
Feb 10, 2010
8:37 AM
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Hey Joe, Yes, I picked one cock and two hens, culled everything else and started from there. All three have 644D in their background and that's were the spin comes from for my birds.
Thom
Last Edited by on Feb 10, 2010 8:38 AM
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JDA
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680 posts
Feb 10, 2010
10:34 AM
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Thom....That is all conformation on Tony,s Ruby,s.JDA
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Oldfart
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1637 posts
Feb 11, 2010
12:26 PM
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Hey Joe, People do not seem to understand what is provided for a small monetary gain. Tony sells young birds for $35.00 each. I would guess that is barely enough to pay the feed, light and heat bill for his loft, some months, it’s not enough.
So, what does a person get for his $35.00? A guarantee that every young bird will be a champion and every bird will spin to a minimum depth with a certain style? Then, each bird will be worth more as an adult and your investment will grow exponentially. All you need do is tell the judge, you are flying Ruby’s and you automatically, WIN! What, that is not the answer! Then what does he sell?
He sells rollers, fickle, ever changing, and no two alike, infuriating, frustrating little spinning balls of feathers. The potential is what is really for sale, along with a lot of hard work, and a dream. A concept of breeding rollers with a constant support system provided through this web site and an open door policy via the phone. He started with proven stock and refined, combined, then defined his Ruby rollers and only after he felt, they were good enough to carry his mother’s name (I will not expand on that, it speaks for itself) he offered to sell some. Each bird comes with its linage plainly stated for all to see. Will every bird be a champion?
I asked Tony, “If these are the birds you sell, then what are the birds you keep like?” I have come to understand the quality is the same. The potential from all of the hard work is in the box. Every fancier has his or her own regime. Each will experience different outcomes, some will excel while sadly others will fail. Does this success rest with Tony? What if they fail, is it then, Tony’s fault?
I leave this question open ended, as will be the result. What do you get for your $35.00?
A chance, that is all.
Thom
Last Edited by on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 PM
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
682 posts
Feb 11, 2010
5:39 PM
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Thom...I payed $59.95 for each of my birds and they were well worth the price. I got them for an experiment with the quality and the size of these Ruby,s.Liking what I saw with beak size and setting,With intelligent in kitting,and spinning ability,I would recommend these Ruby,s for anyone starting from scratch in the roller game.Tony has done all the work and sweat for you.You should use the pedigree that comes with all his birds as a guide for the future breeding of your original stock, and there youngsters that you raise and fly.$35.00 that is what he is asking now,It is a steel.The five hens that he has up for sale now,If you look at there pedigree,there is a hen 95-644D on all 5 pedigree of the hens he has for sale.With her on the pedigree you have the makings of a fun family of Ruby,s to enjoy for years to come.It,s easy with this site and his birds for new people to the roller hobby. JDA
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1638 posts
Feb 11, 2010
6:05 PM
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Joe, You are one smart fellow! :)
Thom
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