smeyer02
33 posts
Jan 30, 2010
5:59 AM
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Can someone give me the pros and cons of installing lights in my breading lofts to increase the breading?
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donnie james
906 posts
Jan 30, 2010
6:17 AM
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hay smeye,
i use to have light in my breeding loft and then i turn off the lights and i have about 1hour to 45 minute some time 2 and 1/2 hours i thought it help them and when i was going to turn the lights of i check on the breeders and made sure they was setting on the nestand i think it help the birds and gave more time to feed their young............
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Donny James
"Fly The Best And Cull The Rest"
"Saying One Thing;Doing Its Another"
"Keep Your Head Planted In The Sky And Wings Spanned Wide"
1996 Piedmont Roller Club Lifetime Achievement Recipient
Portsmouth Roller Club Participation Award System Recipient 1994 '96 '97 And 2000
2001 Limestone,Ohio Sportsman's Club Lifetime Member Recipient
2002Portsmouth Roller Club Certified Judge
2004Portsmouth Roller Club Lifetime Member Recipient
"Miss Portsmouth"NBRC/90/J311 Rusty Dun Check Self Hen First Bird To Get Certified In Portsmouth Roller Club History With A Score Of 53 Judge By Joe Roe The 1993 World Cup Winner And John Bender The 1994 World Cup Winner
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wannaroll
126 posts
Jan 30, 2010
7:20 AM
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Leaving the lights on for a few hours when the days are shorter (fall, winter) tricks the birds into thinking it is spring time, much like plants, you can manipilate them to flower/produce fruit at odd times of the year by increasing the photoperiod.
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
(San Bernardino Mountain Spinners)
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
667 posts
Jan 30, 2010
7:53 AM
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I would have light go on 4am go off 6pm in breeding pens.JDA
Last Edited by on Jan 30, 2010 7:56 AM
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gentle johnnie
110 posts
Jan 30, 2010
8:37 AM
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this will be my first year with lights in loft- have read that turning them on for a couple of hours early make breeders think its spring and stimulates them into early breeding I'm going to try it hope it works would like to start earlery this year. Have high hope for my breeding program a couple of new lines: Ken Easley and Robert Contreras along with my Ball/Turner line. and my new loft all under one roof 6 individual 3x21/2x4 and 8 open for feeders. also 3 kit boxes all under same roof. was working in loft Thur evening wind 25mph and 20 deg and was waring t-shirt but still need some vents low and high sure that will lower temperature some. Gentle Johnnie "Angels of the Sky Loft"
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polarbear
64 posts
Jan 30, 2010
9:02 AM
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If you use lights, have them come on in the morning before sunrise and have it on a timer to go off 1 hour after sunrise.
I had mine come on for a total of 14hrs of daylight. If you let the birds have a natural sunset you reduce the risk of the breeders not being on the nest when the lights go out.
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
596 posts
Jan 30, 2010
9:24 AM
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I leave my lights on 24/7 until late spring. I have seen no ill effects and the birds seem to feed the young throughout the night.
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
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JMUrbon
882 posts
Jan 30, 2010
9:50 AM
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I have had lights in my stock loft for many years and I have always left them on 24/7 during the winter and spring monthes. I use the florescent lighgts and they are very cheap to operate and I never worry about the birds not being able to return to the nest if at some time during the nite they get off. Joe
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
610 posts
Jan 30, 2010
10:35 AM
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I agree with Joe and Mike. Use florescent lights and leave them on 24/7. Have for years with no ill effects.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Pumpkin Man
178 posts
Jan 30, 2010
11:08 AM
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24/7 doesn't hurt a thing. Also make sure you give plenty of food. Any animal/bird will reproduce when food is abundant if you don't feed your birds well they compensate for lack of food by not being too aggressive hatching and raising young. They slow down.
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Ty Coleman
850 posts
Jan 30, 2010
11:14 AM
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I have banded 47 since November. It has been as low as 15deg with only a few clear days. I leave my lights on 24\7 and I have a LP heater to keep the loft at 60deg. I have gotten a few single rounds though. That is the only draw back so far.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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donnie james
907 posts
Jan 30, 2010
11:25 AM
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hay smeye,
i been lazy to dig a trench to lay cvp pipe with a cord in side of it and i have an ulcer on the bottom of my left foot and its just about heal up maybe this spring i could dig that trench and get the lights out their
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Donny James
"Fly The Best And Cull The Rest"
"Saying One Thing;Doing Its Another"
"Keep Your Head Planted In The Sky And Wings Spanned Wide"
1996 Piedmont Roller Club Lifetime Achievement Recipient
Portsmouth Roller Club Participation Award System Recipient 1994 '96 '97 And 2000
2001 Limestone,Ohio Sportsman's Club Lifetime Member Recipient
2002Portsmouth Roller Club Certified Judge
2004Portsmouth Roller Club Lifetime Member Recipient
"Miss Portsmouth"NBRC/90/J311 Rusty Dun Check Self Hen First Bird To Get Certified In Portsmouth Roller Club History With A Score Of 53 Judge By Joe Roe The 1993 World Cup Winner And John Bender The 1994 World Cup Winner
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
2360 posts
Jan 30, 2010
2:47 PM
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Steve
I think it is a great idea to help bring breeder pairs into condition earlier than normal, by increasing the hours of light. I like to have a timer turn the lights on at 4:00 am and go off at 12:00 noon so they use normal lighting to end their day. It seems to help. There will be other ideas on the timing and I am sure they all help depending on where you live and when you put your pairs together.
Cliff
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1625 posts
Jan 30, 2010
2:51 PM
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Donny, If I hear that you are digging ditchs, I'm getting in the car! :)
You are the least lazy person I know.
Thom
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Steve_uk
1408 posts
Feb 01, 2010
1:25 PM
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I have 2 lights in the breeder 1 is a strip light for when i go in and the other is a 18w low energy saving lamp which i leave on 24/7.
Ste...
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donnie james
915 posts
Feb 01, 2010
5:28 PM
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hay thom,
i'm getting smarted in my old age grin :)
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Donny James
"Fly The Best And Cull The Rest"
"Saying One Thing;Doing Its Another"
"Keep Your Head Planted In The Sky And Wings Spanned Wide"
1996 Piedmont Roller Club Lifetime Achievement Recipient
Portsmouth Roller Club Participation Award System Recipient 1994 '96 '97 And 2000
2001 Limestone,Ohio Sportsman's Club Lifetime Member Recipient
2002Portsmouth Roller Club Certified Judge
2004Portsmouth Roller Club Lifetime Member Recipient
"Miss Portsmouth"NBRC/90/J311 Rusty Dun Check Self Hen First Bird To Get Certified In Portsmouth Roller Club History With A Score Of 53 Judge By Joe Roe The 1993 World Cup Winner And John Bender The 1994 World Cup Winner
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Richard
126 posts
Feb 03, 2010
8:29 PM
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the number of hours of day light induces the dsesire of the birds to mate. Use at least 14 hrs total of light, artifical and natural light a couple of weeks before you mate your birds and until the natural day light is at least 15 plus hrs a day.. The artifical light should come on in the morning and only go off only after the natural light is in full force. This way the parents will be able to return to the nest
when the light go out.
Another advantage of having the light on is the parents can get to the feed and water longer which will enable the young to be feed with out waiting a long period of time between meals do to lack of light.
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smeyer02
39 posts
Feb 04, 2010
5:17 AM
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Richard thanks for the advice I am going to install three each two tube florancent lights this weekend in all three of my breading lofts.{cold weather lights} I hope this will get my breading program in high gear.
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Richard
127 posts
Feb 05, 2010
5:34 PM
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Good luck with the breeding season.
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harrison
1296 posts
Feb 06, 2010
1:37 PM
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Hi guys.
Over in the UK its been freezing and due to the amount of young I lost last year to the cold I have left breeding untill now.
I pickd my best 5 cocks and hens today and put them in lockd cages to pair up.
Its still quiet dark so I have my light on and will turn it off around 9pm.
Then back on around 5pm before sunset.
Its realy bugging me bcause I no that there is more birds in my loft that I should be pairing up but I just want to realy work with small numbers and build on them.
I suppose I can always pair some more up later on in the months.
I started to lose intrest in my birds over the winter due to not been able to do alot with them and getting side trackd with my new hobby(COURSING) Running my GREYHOUND WHIPPET BITCH.
But I kept all my breeders and am so happy bcause now its time to breed the adrenaline rush is coming back to me again.
I will keep you all informd on my progress.
Good to be back.
yours in roll and freindship.
Harrison.
HKR ROLLER LOFTS HULL UK.
sos about my spelling.
HI TO ALL THE GOOD GUYS lol.
You no who you are.ha ha
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Richard
128 posts
Feb 06, 2010
8:39 PM
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Harrison
I was wondering why you turn your light off at 9PM.
You Said "Its still quiet dark so I have my light on and will turn it off around 9pm.
Then back on around 5pm before sunset."
What if a birds goes off the nest say for water at 9pm and the light go off while it is off the nest.
I suggested to have the light come on early in the morning and then go off just after daylight. Be sure that they have a total of at least 15 hrs.
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Squabby*32
171 posts
Feb 06, 2010
11:51 PM
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MY breeders have lights 24/7. I think it is better and feel safer by supplying them with light in this way.
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DJJeffman Spinners
ATAPWGIYAHTLY
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Richard
129 posts
Feb 07, 2010
8:02 AM
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24/7 is well and good but my thinking is the parents need some time without lighs to sleep and rest. I guess they can rest with lights on. Just my thinking.
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
4133 posts
Feb 07, 2010
1:24 PM
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Hello Richard, My birds seem to be healthier when the lights are turned off in the night. I use a light in the short days of winter when I breed year around, but in the longer day light days of warmer months the lights go off at night.
It is all about what works for you, I believe. If you think it works; then it works.
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"Left leaning communist pinko @#%*; A Masturbator"
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Nick Siders
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smeyer02
40 posts
Feb 07, 2010
3:33 PM
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Well I just finished installing the lights in all three of my breading lofts looks great and seems as if the birds are liking it better 24/7 in fact there eating habbits have changed some eating less at feeding time but finish it all of during the day. They used to eat all at once but now take all day at it. I also keeping grit all the time.
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