cv rollers
536 posts
Feb 17, 2010
12:21 AM
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----------LVRC just wondering who is donating birds to the show???want to know how much money i should take lol.just wondering what names have donated birds,looking forward to the show,had a great time last year....
Rick Flores
coachellavalleyrollers.net
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George R.
305 posts
Feb 17, 2010
6:24 AM
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Tim Decker, Randy Gibson, Spanky, Hector Coya, Sal Mendez,Scott Laufer, Willie Wright, Guil Rand. and many many more.
This will be agreat chance to pick up some Birds just in time for breeding season.
Also the Raffle will be one of the best raffles you will ever see .
Thanks
George
Last Edited by on Feb 17, 2010 6:57 AM
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spanky
900 posts
Feb 17, 2010
7:11 PM
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GEORGE YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THE BIRDS TO YOU OR YOU WILL PICK THEM UP I DONT WANT THEM TO BE IN MY TRUNK ALL NITE. ILL BE AT THE INPERIAL PALACE
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macsrollers
272 posts
Feb 17, 2010
11:08 PM
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Also Gene Giegoldt has donated a pair of his 514 line, and Watts Up is donating some birds out of his Tim Decker birds. We also have some birds from Kevin Brokenbraugh out of his Juan Navarro birds. And this is just the start as we have alot of top roller people coming and donating birds! Thanks and we will see you at the show!
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cv rollers
537 posts
Feb 17, 2010
11:44 PM
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WOW !!!!! sounds good guys look forward to the show
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Rick Flores
coachellavalleyrollers.net
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spanky
901 posts
Feb 18, 2010
9:52 AM
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SOUNDS GOOD GEORGE ILL CALL YOU
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Hector Coya
631 posts
Feb 19, 2010
3:21 PM
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Hey George,im taking a Higgins squeecker,out of my original Higgins pair,its just out of the nest today so i hope he makes it .
Hector Coya
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Scott
2886 posts
Feb 19, 2010
6:38 PM
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Hector.. is that a good idea ?
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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Hector Coya
632 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:38 PM
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Scott,What did you Donate?
At least I donated.
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
704 posts
Feb 21, 2010
5:57 PM
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Hector...How was LV show??
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Scott
2889 posts
Feb 21, 2010
6:11 PM
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We are on different pages bud.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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Hector Coya
635 posts
Feb 22, 2010
6:55 AM
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We are on different pages, I'm on the page that says,,If you don't have anything nice to say about some once birds, Don't say anything at all,,
I even post a picture of a Monty Nieble bird,and you still have to post ,,it looks like a cross,,,,
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Scott
2890 posts
Feb 22, 2010
7:16 AM
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Hector.. I was talking about taking a bird that hasn't even been been weined yet .. honestly I see this on the cruel side.. the same as breeding roll downs in numbers.. this stuff puts us "all" in a bad light.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
Last Edited by on Feb 22, 2010 7:16 AM
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az-je
88 posts
Feb 22, 2010
9:44 AM
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Hector (and Scott) just want to let you know that the red Higgins roller baby Gary bought at the LVRC auction on Saturday and took home to AZ is alive and well, eats and drinks on it's own. All is well, no harm done.
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Hector Coya
637 posts
Feb 22, 2010
9:55 AM
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Good luck with it,if it dies for being too young,let me know and ill replace it.
But i pulled it at a good age it looked like it would be fine.
Im glad you like it,it should roll good,i bred the same pair last year and they produce some real nice birds.
This was my first round,and i told George i would donate something,and thats all i can do.
Hector Coya
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
705 posts
Feb 22, 2010
10:00 AM
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Hector...I knew you would have had it eating and drinking. What needs to be done is a direct line to Scott to let him have the last word before attempting anything that pertains to rollers for he has to have at least 80 years experience. He was Bill Pensom,s mentor you know. JDA
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az-je
89 posts
Feb 22, 2010
10:21 AM
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It's not too young at all and there's nothing cruel about it. No worries, that's a perfect age actually. They settle into a new home, trap train and learn the routine quickly. These little birds are actually pretty tough and smart. I put it and the other squeeker Gary bought on Saturday in the loft with my Helmets as they have 2 youngsters about the same age. They were instantly in the food tray and getting a drink of water. It's all good.
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George R.
309 posts
Feb 22, 2010
6:52 PM
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Hector
Thanks for your donation , that Bird was old enough . I pull my babies younger then you do .he was old enough to be flying in a Kit in My opinion , THANKS for everthing . We really appreciate it !!!!
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macsrollers
274 posts
Feb 22, 2010
7:35 PM
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When Hector brought the bird he also put a dish of food and water in the show cage with it. I saw it drinking and eating. He took the extra steps to insure the bird was fine. Mr. Pensom writes in his book that you should pull squeakers as early as 18 days old. He states that many think this is too young but this is the best time to start them out on their own as they quickly learn how to fend for themselves. Hector is not a rookie who is doing something without knowing what he is doing. We would all like to give a bird more opportunity to be weaned but also know that a bird at around 26 plus days of age will be alright. Sometimes I think some people read thru these post just to look form something to pick apart and then it becomes a negative situation. Hector, we appreciate your support and the San Gabriel Valley Spinners support. You guys come to the show, bring birds to donate, participate and that makes the shows more fun. I hope to see you on March 7th at the Non-Stop show.
Thank you, Don M. Mac's Rollers
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Scott
2896 posts
Feb 22, 2010
9:32 PM
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I'm glad it worked out..
Don.. from the nest to the floor..not a box to a show.
JDA... any day you want to put em up buddy.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
Last Edited by on Feb 22, 2010 9:45 PM
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az-je
90 posts
Feb 23, 2010
8:17 AM
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Scott - I have to respectfully disagree. The Arizona (All Breed) Pigeon Club has an annual "Baby" Lawn Show in early May in the Phoenix area. Many of the birds shown are "Fancy" breeds and no more than 5 to 8 weeks old. We haven't had any baby pigeons die yet. As long as the birds have food and water they are just fine in a carrier and in a show cage. We show these same birds again in October for our Young Bird Lawn Show and again in December for our Annual All Breed Winter Show. There is really no difference between a Loft Floor, Kit Box or Show Cage at that age.
AZ Roller Lady
Janet Edwards
AZPC Secretary/Treasurer
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3547 posts
Feb 23, 2010
9:05 AM
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I had birds sent to me real young I'm talking 4 weeks old just wean and they were strong lil suckers and I'm talking arriving two days late to my destination.they sure made it ...
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Scott
2897 posts
Feb 23, 2010
9:25 AM
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Ralph .. did you pull it out of the nest and toss it in a box hoping that it would make it ?
If you do such at an age where you just "hope" it makes it then it is too young.. maybe I'm just too soft.
(its just out of the nest today so i hope he makes it )
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3548 posts
Feb 23, 2010
10:06 AM
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Scott I don't do that period.but I know what you mean I read that the same way you did but then I knew that Hector been around birds long enough and that he knew what he was doing ..Hector must have had it eating already that he must have been talking about the ride distance in saying he hopes that the young one makes it.Don did say he saw it eating in the cage and a bird just out the nest wouldn't know how to eat unless you taught it to. so in a way I'm glad you said something it made other come out saying the bird is alright and eating right away.this way it clear everything up about being cruel and newbie reading it the wrong way ... peace..
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2010 10:09 AM
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macsrollers
280 posts
Feb 26, 2010
8:19 AM
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Hi Scott. Pensom didn't say from the nest from the floor. He wrote "at the beginning the young birds are taken from their parents at the earliest time possible, at the age of 18 days old." Regardless, in an ideal situation we would give the youngster time to be weaned, etc. Hector has been raising birds for a long time as well as made the buyer aware of the age of the bird. Glad everything worked out as well. Thanks and enjoy your next fly! Scott, hope to see you at the NCRC show at the end of March.
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