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Pogohawk
33 posts
Mar 03, 2010
3:46 PM
I've had issues with the neighbor cat for weeks now and have even asked the owner to keep the cat off of my property. This morning the cat was sitting on top of my loft disturbing my breeders inside. In response I purchased a live animal trap today and plan to take the cat to the pound if I catch it on my property. Does this seem like the right thing to do?
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1187 posts
Mar 03, 2010
4:10 PM
Pogohawk
just get you a pitbull that will take care of that cat loll
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Pogohawk
34 posts
Mar 03, 2010
4:28 PM
I actually have one that has a history with cats. I'm new to the neighborhood though and don't want to piss anybody off.
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JMUrbon
934 posts
Mar 03, 2010
4:29 PM
It all depend on what kind of a relationship you have or want with your neighbors. I dont have pit bulls but I do have dogs that run any and all cats out of my back yard. I am not even shure they would know what to do if they ever caught one but they do a good job at keeping them at bay. A cat is considered a wild animal and therefore you can trap and relocate if you feel the need to. joe
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pat66
488 posts
Mar 03, 2010
4:43 PM
Pogo- trap it! I do it all the time!
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Pinwheel
137 posts
Mar 03, 2010
4:47 PM
I wouldnt go that extreme yet. ONly becuase you dont want them complaining about your birds. If you have already mentioned it to them, when they discover their cat is missing, they will know who to come to. Unless you told them of your plans, then, whatever. OR since your a falconer, you might have more cleaver ways of "trapping"

Depending on a lot of factors theres a chance that the kitty might test positive for the feline AIDs(if vaccinated or infected) and if so, they might put down immediately. But if claimed as stray, they will wait a few days for ownership. But if no owners come, then they have to deal accordingly. which that may not make you so popular if they suspect you. Im just throwing out extremes though. but just think bout it.
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Last Edited by on Mar 03, 2010 5:36 PM
wannaroll
143 posts
Mar 03, 2010
5:45 PM
If it's someones pet you need to contact the owner. Then it's up to them to handle it. Catch the cat and put a note on it. If it's a stray, catch it and take it to the pound.
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kcfirl
630 posts
Mar 03, 2010
5:47 PM
I would not do what you are suggesting. Your neighbors will never forgive you and will be looking for revenge. Do you want that?

I would put the dog in the yard and the cat won't come in.

Or get a big male cat and it will keep the other cats away.

I have had three different cats in the time I've had pigeons and they can be trained quite easily they they better not bother your pigeons. Same for the dog.

Best Regards,

Ken
donnie james
942 posts
Mar 03, 2010
5:49 PM
hay pogohawk,
put your dog in the back yard for a couple hours when your dog gets after the cat a few times the cat wouldn't come in your yard............
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3579 posts
Mar 03, 2010
6:41 PM
Hey Ty ,don't say nothing just throw a rock to scare it away everytime he will get the message if the neighbor don't like it let him control his animal..if your dog gets at the cat you still going to have problems or your dog could lose an eye over it..I had the same problem here it got ugly now we are enemys..next time don't say anything to anybody and just relocate it but now it won't be a good idea since you told him about it.. nobodys looking a good whack he won't come around anymore.good luck..
Ralph.
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Pogohawk
37 posts
Mar 03, 2010
8:20 PM
I've been let the dogs loose on him a few times and he's barely escaped with his life, but still come back. I've even pelted him with my little Red Ryder a couple times and still he comes back. I put the trap out tonight. If I catch the damn thing I'm gonna take it over to the neighbor and tell her I'll take it to the pound next time. If she has a problem with that I'm not too sure what I'll do.
Ty Coleman
865 posts
Mar 04, 2010
3:25 AM
Ty, it is a bad situation you are in. I started a neighbor hood fewd about 10 years back. I raise chickens also and one day I came home to find 10 of my roosters dead and a beagle who belonged to the neighbor still killing. He refused to chain his dog or pay for the roosters. I got a judgement from the Magistrate court and still did not recover my loss. I carried the dog to the pound a week later. Then the UPS driver let my dog out of the front gate and the guy shot my dog and I had a large Vet bill. It is no good for anyone but what can you do. I have lost Parlor rollers to cats, they snatch there legs off through the wire and the birds bleed to death and I have lost entire hatchings of chickens being picked of one at the time by cats. The Sherrif Department told me I had a right to protect my livestock so I put a sign on the fence. If you want to keep your pet Keep it at home ! I went and bought a radio control fence for my Dobes and gave them free range on my loft yard and a red dot for my 22 and the fewd continues. So try to resolve it the best you can.
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3581 posts
Mar 04, 2010
4:17 AM
Ty he keeps coming back that cat is hardheaded ..do what you got to do.
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katyroller
723 posts
Mar 04, 2010
6:12 AM
Pogohawk,
Is the cat actually messing with the birds or are the birds just freaking out because they aren't used to the cat? If the cat isn't actually messing with the birds, I'd leave it alone because it will take care of any rodents your birds might attract. You could have a rodent problem that is attracting the cat. My birds used to freak out about my dog and he wasn't doing anything wrong, now they totally ignore him.
I would avoid getting into a pissing contest with the neighbor because of the fall out.
Tracey
J_Star
2255 posts
Mar 04, 2010
6:46 AM
If the cat is not hurting your breeders, then let him be. The birds will get used to him being around in no time at all. Look at it from the positive side, he will keep you area rodents free for a long time. I have friends who have cats as pets and pigeon coop in the back yard. Their cats sit on top of the loft all the times and won't bother the birds at all. The birds not even afraid of them. However, they can not be trusted due to their instinct if there is an opening for the cat to get in. Make sure your coop is vermint proof.

Jay
Scott
2907 posts
Mar 04, 2010
7:22 AM
I have three cats.. one spends time with me in the loft often.. no problems as the birds know her well.. the fact is from what I have read over the years dogs have been the biggest problem when there is one.
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Roll Down
93 posts
Mar 04, 2010
7:52 AM
Pogohawk:
You will have to be very careful with this, but it works very well for me:

Cut a piece of tin into a strip about 6 inches wide and say about a foot long.
Now find an old lamp cord ( or appliance cord etc. ) that has the plug still attached.
Separate the two wires down to the plug and CUT OFF ONE of the wires near the plug ( the wire with the large terminal that plugs into the wall receptacle ) and discard. --VERY IMPORTANT: If your plug has both terminals the same size, you can cut either wire off at the plug and discard, but it will only work if plugged with the remaining wire plugged into the right hand side of the wall receptacle. Put some electrical tape on the area where you have cut off the wire.
Now make bare about an inch of the ( now one )wire coming from the plug and solder it onto one end of the piece of tin and lay it where a cat ( or possum or racoon etc. will step on it.)
Now just plug it in and I guarantee no cat will step on it twice!
-- This will only work if the cat's paws are damp, so I water the area around the tin to make sure they are. -- usually at night, there is enough dew on the grass to make watering unnecessary.
This WILL NOT hurt the animal as they only get a mild shock from it.

I offer this as information only and as with anything electrical, extreme caution must be observed.
Hope this helps.
George D.

Last Edited by on Mar 04, 2010 7:58 AM
Tony Chavarria
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3910 posts
Mar 04, 2010
8:03 AM
Hey Jay, I actually have a cat that lives in the breeding loft with my birds. Has been for about 2 years. I brought her in as a kitten and she has "never" (knock on wood) gone after my birds. She keeps any mice away and would probably kill any snake that got in. She walks along the rafters, behind the crown pens and plays with me while I feed and care for the birds. BUT she is a cat, and as a kitten, I acclimated her to being afraid of the birds. When I hold a birds up to her, she goes running away and hides.

Last night, by accident, I had left the inside door from the breeder loft to the hen pen open and all of them are accounted for. She had all night to create a disaster. When I went into the breeder loft today, she and a hen were sitting about 5 feet from each other as calm as could be. That was a test that I would not want to repeat, but it worked out alright.

I do not let her run outside to catch birds, her world is the loft and we have a good balance between cat - bird and man. I am going to have her fixed soon and anticipate this cat-bird relationship for many years.
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Alohazona
697 posts
Mar 04, 2010
9:35 AM
Wild or ferral cats can be a problem.If a cat has a mean streak or a tendancy to be habitually returning,it's something to worry about.They probably have had the taste.


True story...a cat killed a parlor roller of mine that got left out,bit the head off and wanted more.My wife and I prayed together in the"Spirit"and banned it from the property.The cat has not returned.....Aloha,Todd
Windjammer Loft
1077 posts
Mar 04, 2010
11:39 AM
Pogohawk....your 100% in the right

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Paul
Squabby*32
197 posts
Mar 04, 2010
10:20 PM
Amen, prayer changes things.
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JEFF WILSON
64 posts
Mar 06, 2010
4:29 AM
pogohawk i have been a animal control officer for 28 years do the right thing call animal control and let them take care of the problem.then you have no regrets


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