Pogohawk
57 posts
Mar 10, 2010
6:21 PM
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I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with bell neck birds? And do they come from a particular strain? Again I am looking for decent performance birds. I know most of it is up to me but I don't wanna buy birds that are just bred for color. They also look like larger type birds, or is that just me.
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 6:22 PM
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Pogohawk
58 posts
Mar 10, 2010
6:33 PM
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LOL!!! I know, Im just curious what they are for, color or performance?
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
725 posts
Mar 10, 2010
6:45 PM
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Ruby birds have all you want and are proven to kit,roll with style,speed and velocity. Why keep looking and spending your money just to get rid of what you were told where great supper birds. Learn with Ruby,s and you will stay with Ruby,s.JDA
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1674 posts
Mar 10, 2010
6:48 PM
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Joe, :) You are the man! and you are right!
Thom
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
726 posts
Mar 10, 2010
6:53 PM
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Thom...He is just curious but we know what that did,Killed the cat.lol JDA
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wishiwon2
313 posts
Mar 10, 2010
7:36 PM
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Pogo,
Bellneck rollers are a variety established by Thomas S. Monson (Sr.), from Utah. I dont know if he created them or not, but he certainly deserves credit for developing them as a distinct variety. Ive no idea what they are made from, but I suspect Birmingham rollers, originally. They're distinguished by a colored collar around the back of their neck, going from the base of the skull down to the wing joint. They're typically bulleyed with a fine eye cere and red legs/feet. They are approx the same size as a Birmingham.
They do roll, some. Having been bred for color and pattern for generations, they've lost alot of the performing ability and kitting instinct. The performance I have seen is a tumbling roll, neither fast, smooth nor deep. If you're looking for a good spinning bird, I advise look elsewhere. If you want a bird that is a good parent, calm in the loft and comes in red, blue and yellow, these might satisfy. I have owned several and know ppl who own and fly them.
A guy who used to come on here was trying to breed better roll back into them. Jared Peterson from AZ I think. I havent heard any progress reports ...
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Jon
If it were easy, everybody would do it
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Pogohawk
59 posts
Mar 10, 2010
7:49 PM
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Thanks Jon thats exactly what I was looking for, thank you. You never know till you ask. I haven't spent money either thats why im asking.
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Square
808 posts
Mar 11, 2010
10:32 AM
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I personally breed alot of "Bell Necks" on one side of my birds,, However they just endedup that way.. I didnt breed for that marking at all,, As far as a perticular strain producing that marking Im am unsure. I just been breeding my birds for awhile and have noticed that I have been getting more and more with that marking... I also get alot of oddsides and sattles. I breed for performance and dont really sell birds or care what color they are..I was in a position in 1997 or so and was wanting some birds with more white flights and baldheads. The birds I was building at the time were mostly dark checks red check and blue bared. Thease"Ghost Town" birds worked well but I wanted somthing diffrent. I have the two families seprate,, and am happy with the outcome of the two. But all are welcome to my house to see the birds,,open inventation to all the good ones... Good luck.....1
BOOKER.
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
K.C.R.C
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Ty Coleman
869 posts
Mar 11, 2010
5:35 PM
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Ty, Do you have any oddside birds ? If so breed your oddside's together and in a few rounds you will produce some bell necks. After a few years of selective breeding you will breed alot of them. It is like breeding baldheads in a since.
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Ty
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JMUrbon
961 posts
Mar 11, 2010
6:45 PM
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I have been to Mr Monsons house and seen the bellnecks and they are definately an attractive bird. He has bred them specifically for their appearance and they appeared at least half again as big as the flying rollers we breed these days. Tom does not fly them so as stated befor the roll has definately deteriated. Joe
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Robert Pelham
67 posts
Mar 11, 2010
7:06 PM
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One my pigeon buddys has a old famley of bells and I got a few bells last year out a Van Copple Cock & a Dr Ducet hen they rolled about 40 and good speed.so I gave to my friend to cross in to his birds .he already has 6 out of them and they look good .maybe I will fly a kit next year and see if they work or not.
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