rookie from ct
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241 posts
Mar 30, 2010
5:44 PM
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for all you new people excited & wanting to get roller pigeons look only at the top of this page and be patient get reviews and talk to people who went through what you are going to go through Tony RPDC has better birds than you can find or as good as any with plenty of reference and a life long of help with them I spent over a grand on fosters before i found this site Dennis
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Oldfart
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1698 posts
Mar 30, 2010
6:23 PM
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Hey Dennis, you like the Ruby's then? :)
Thom
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Sunflower
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643 posts
Mar 30, 2010
7:11 PM
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Dennis,
Are you referring to "Master" Pair?
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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rookie from ct
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243 posts
Mar 31, 2010
4:54 AM
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Yes how can you tell there is a new guy here on this site put up a post (breeding) and ordered 12 birds from him we have to let people on this site know of this guy. Yes Oldfart i do. Dennis
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Oldfart
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1700 posts
Mar 31, 2010
9:51 AM
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Dennis, I know you do! So do I!
Take care my friend
Thom
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rookie from ct
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244 posts
Mar 31, 2010
4:31 PM
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your going to get use to this (sorry) Dennis
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rookie from ct
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247 posts
Apr 01, 2010
3:13 AM
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rosevelt i know you are happy with the birds you got in 08, but i think he sold to many of his breeders and now out of 15 pair he has on his site more than half are 09 birds, and the 09,birds i got(12) one might make stock. Dennis
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Windjammer Loft
1091 posts
Apr 01, 2010
3:37 AM
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I guess that's the chance we all take. Your not going to stock "every" bird that you buy.. nor are you going to stock every bird that "You" breed. As far as the bashing and bad mouthing a person,I personaly don't get involved, specially when I "don't" know the individual on a personal bases.
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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birdman
809 posts
Apr 01, 2010
6:59 AM
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Roosevelt,
He doesn't claim to have birds 'just as good as everyone else', he claims to have 'the best in the world.'
I think the title of this thread says it all. Buyer Beware.
Russ
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rookie from ct
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248 posts
Apr 01, 2010
7:58 AM
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He claimed that he developed four families of rollers one that don't roll,i guess that is the family that he sent me the way i look at it is i spent over a grand in fosters. Dennis
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Sunflower
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644 posts
Apr 01, 2010
8:12 AM
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Roosevelt,
I think it is outragous that someone would charge $500-600 for 10-12 squeakers out of any bloodline of birds. This guy has left a slime trail everywhere he has gone and people are trying to warn others so they don't get burned by this fellow. For every testimonial like yours there are a number of sad tales from this fellow's dealings.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Newbie 08
187 posts
Apr 02, 2010
8:24 PM
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I sympathize with those who's experience with the birds were not as positive as mine. Far as all the other drama. Not my buisness just felt the need to say what I did.
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Hector Coya
657 posts
Apr 03, 2010
8:58 AM
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I guess its hard to take this guy serious when he calls himself ans wants everyone to call him MASTER,,,,
Hector Coya-SGVS
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JMUrbon
1012 posts
Apr 03, 2010
10:14 PM
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I have been breeding and flying rollers for along time and I dont believe that anybody out there can garentee that you will get even 1 stockable bird out of 15. What you get when you purchase squeekers is hope. Thats it. Any guarentee is just plain BS. Instead of badmouthing I think some self blame is in order. Had you taken the time to view his birds in the air you might not have purchased them and if he had chosen not to fly them for you then you dont buy them anyway. No squeeker is garenteed. Joe
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Mongrel Lofts
643 posts
Apr 03, 2010
10:31 PM
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Guys,
What does it matter if the birds are decent or not? Why would anyone biy birds from a known thief and con man. Your buying birds in some cases off stolen birds.
The man admits he stold a yellow cock from a friend on roller world.
This post by Larry H is all the proof any decent person needs. But hey, it's not enough for the Master, so Larry sent the cashed check the Master asked for. It is goofey to buy birds and argue over what everyone knows is true. Just look at this post. What more needs said?
From FERRELL BUSSING
HERE'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT APPRECIATE KNOWING.
Hello,My name is Larry Holman. I live in Gentry, AR I was wondering if you knew a crooked bird dealer that lives in your area. He is RK PAIR, 2314 CR 1257, Blanhard,OK 73010.Last year he had the same Building of kits and breeding lofts and taking orders for young kits. The problem being he suddenly came down sick, had to go to hospital, had to get rid of all his birds. That was while he was in TENN. Now I find him right next door doing the same thing and he owes me 10 young birds which were already paid for including shipping.I don't know how many people he conned last year besides me but I see he has the same pictures of his breeding stock and his 5 kit bird houses are the same except he's not using cement foundation.I don't know what you can do about him but I'm putting the word out to who ever Thank You, Larry Holman
lj51942@yahoo. com
PS. Rosevelt, You are correct. The Master is not getting a fair shake. A fair shake would be making him give back the money, Bird and property to his victims. Or are you only interested in the (moderated) getting a fair shake. Not the victims?
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nicksiders
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4290 posts
Apr 04, 2010
12:07 AM
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I too, personally know of people that have had problems of the same sort with the self proclaimed Master Breeder. These people are in the same NBRC and WC Regions that I am in. I am not going to drag their names into this, but a few of them read the threads on this site regularly.
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A True Friend Is Hard To Find
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Nick Siders
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Newbie 08
189 posts
Apr 04, 2010
1:03 PM
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All I can say is WOW!! it's apparent this guy has made more than a few enemies due to his comments and buisness dealings. I knew nothing of all of this when I first made contact and purchased my squeaks two years ago. I have to honestly say If I'd knew all of this and this reputation that goes with the birds before hand I'm sure I wouldn't have got involved.Again WOW!!!!!! The milk is spilled the horses are out of the barn now. What's done is done on my part. Get me once shame on you get me twice shame on me!! Advertisment on my part shut down LOL. Only thing I got off with some decent birds, with a stigma of maybe being stolen!!Ouch!!RK who??? man over board LMAO----------
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Newbie 08
191 posts
Apr 04, 2010
1:16 PM
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Joe you hit it on the head!!!
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JDA
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772 posts
Apr 04, 2010
1:42 PM
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Newbie 08.... Sorry I though ill of you.I deleted my post.JDA
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nicksiders
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4292 posts
Apr 04, 2010
3:14 PM
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Roosevelt, the thing from Ferrell Bussing was an email sent to him. He just took the email and rolled it over to Earl's List. The email was sent to him by Larry Holman from Gentry, AR. He too has had a long history with Mr. Pair.
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A True Friend Is Hard To Find
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Nick Siders
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Newbie 08
193 posts
Apr 04, 2010
7:54 PM
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It's all good JDA and Nick. I'm sure alot of people at this point are pretty pissed considering their negative experience with this fella. By know means do I want anyone thinking I condon his activities and please don't throw me in his pot as a part of the stew he's been cooking up. I'm a true believer in Karma what you throw out there always evenually comes back to you!! The boomerang effect!! ----------
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Newbie 08
194 posts
Apr 04, 2010
8:07 PM
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JDA just checked your profile you're a homeboy from Gardena huh? I was born and raised in L.A. Left in 1984 came up to the bay area. I'm in Fairfield now. I hang out with some of the members of the NCRC. Didn't mean to cut loose like that! Hope I didn't offend anyone. I deleted my post as well don't want anyone else thinking I approve of the dealings of this guy. I also don't think its my place to judge him because I personally never met him. So I'll leave it to those who have reason. Stay up all and fly with success from your view point!
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rookie from ct
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253 posts
Apr 04, 2010
8:26 PM
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I started this post just to let people know that there were more than one place on the internet to buy roller pigeons and make sure you get references on the birds you are to buy if you cant pick them out of the air I felt bad for RK he told me he had to get rid of all his breeders and move to Virginia to care for his sister that had cancer.So i felt that i was helping a :as he told me a dis able vet so shame on me but if i can help one other it would feel good. Dennis
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Oldfart
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1708 posts
Apr 05, 2010
4:54 PM
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Dennis, No shame on you! You acted with honor and consideration. He is a sorry mess of a man from what I have heard on this and other sites. Don't change my friend, I like you as you are! :)
Thom
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