Pogohawk
89 posts
Apr 01, 2010
8:27 AM
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I've been having trouble bringing my kit lower. There is a lot of "air traffic", Crows, Cranes, and some sea birds and it seems to put them too high. I feed 100% wheat during fly season. But this has been a problem for a while now and I feel its probably something I am doing wrong. Any suggestions?
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wannaroll
177 posts
Apr 01, 2010
8:42 AM
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You might want to try feeding milo with your wheat. It sounds like your birds are too strong. Milo is about 9% protein, while your wheat is about 12.5%. Try feeding 50/50 and adjust it from there. You need to give it time for the mixture to work, be patient.
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
(San Bernardino Mountain Spinners)
Last Edited by on Apr 01, 2010 1:38 PM
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
645 posts
Apr 01, 2010
8:46 AM
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Pogo,
Have you tried a 50-50 mix of red wheat and red milo? That worked for me. If they are strong, this time of year they will sky out on the uplifting winds. I was talking to Scott the other day on the phone and his main kit had skied out and were straggling down 1 or 2 at a time. It happens to all of us particularly this time of year.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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J_Star
2286 posts
Apr 01, 2010
10:22 AM
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If all doesn't work for you, which I think it will not, cut the feed by couple table spoons at each feeding until they fly the right hight and time.
Jay
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Ballrollers
GOLD MEMBER
2387 posts
Apr 01, 2010
12:47 PM
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Jay,
Is milo that high in protein? I didn't think it was that close to wheat in protein content.
Cliff
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wannaroll
178 posts
Apr 01, 2010
1:39 PM
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Milo is about 9%, I just corrected my post.
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
(San Bernardino Mountain Spinners)
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Pogohawk
90 posts
Apr 01, 2010
3:11 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. We'll be having bad weather here for the next few days so I'll take the time to get them adjusted to the milo mix. I let you know how it goes.
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Scott Coe
66 posts
Apr 01, 2010
5:35 PM
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Look back and find fhtfire discussion on yo yo conditioning. it made me a very happy man.
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wannaroll
179 posts
Apr 01, 2010
6:26 PM
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I will second that Scott, I am using Pauls Yo Yo plan also, but only on my older birds. My young birds are flying every day.
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
(San Bernardino Mountain Spinners)
Last Edited by on Apr 02, 2010 10:09 AM
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J_Star
2287 posts
Apr 02, 2010
4:42 AM
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It is not the protein in the Milo, rather, it is the carbohidrates that makes them sky out.
Jay
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winwardrollers
452 posts
Apr 02, 2010
8:31 AM
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Pogohawk
you say.."But this has been a problem for a while now"
You need to change the pattern of your flying schedule as well as food. You are dealing with the time of year it is, strong cocks and light hens would be my guess. If you are feeding in the mornings start feeding in the afternoons for a few days. Simply anything to break the pattern/habit until you get the attention of the birds back.
First and foremost... don't feed rollers straight wheat.. find some other seeds or pellets that you can add small portions of. Last year I didn't feed my birds a drop of milo....I can get the same protein/carb/fat ratio out of many mixes.
If you have different families of rollers flying together keep track of individual birds the metabolism's differ.
You said that you flew a day before a storm that is when a high air pressure is sweeping over your area. Let the barometer drop when your bird are fly high already this just adds to the problem/habit. There is many more factors to high flying..it is both positive and a negative..just think you could be walking around the neighborhood picking up rolldowns as an alternative...lol
bwinward
Last Edited by on Apr 02, 2010 9:26 AM
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Pogohawk
93 posts
Apr 02, 2010
11:23 AM
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Your right it seems to be better than the alternative, I haven't lost a bird to a hawk or rolldown in a while, but thats luck too I guess. I'll try your suggestions, and thanks for the advice.
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JR LOPEZ
11 posts
Jun 02, 2010
2:07 AM
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My birds fly too maybe I should feed them more wheat.
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steve49
512 posts
Jun 08, 2010
2:16 PM
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also flying high can be due to a raptor under your birds than you cannot see. i had this very problem yesterday. i let my kit out at 5:25pm, and they immediately flew to the pins. very unlike them, and only after 10 minutes did i see a peregrine falcon lazily flying under them. if i hadn't seen that falcon, i would also be searching for clues. my case was an abberation, rather than the norm, so if your birds sky out only rarely, it just might not be a food/mgmt issue.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Scott
3075 posts
Jun 08, 2010
3:47 PM
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Many times it is due to "lift" also .. which I get a lot of in the Spring.. the other day I was watching down feathers and spider webs rising along with the birds..since yesterday the pattern has reveresed which is more in line with Summer through Winter..
I honestly hate flying in Spring due to the lift that I get here.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
Last Edited by on Jun 08, 2010 3:48 PM
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