Sound Rollers
288 posts
Apr 04, 2010
1:43 PM
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Okay, I have four squabs, three of which are very healthy, one not doing well. The three have their eyes open, are growing rapidly, crops filled with food. The fourth one is very lethargic, eyes closed, and head down off to the side. Please advise.
John
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1704 posts
Apr 04, 2010
1:56 PM
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John, Sounds like it is not getting enough food. You can try hand feeding but I would let nature take it's course. Weak birds are not worth the trouble of trying to save and will hurt you program in the long run. I'm sorry if this was not what you wanted to hear.
Thom
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Sound Rollers
289 posts
Apr 04, 2010
3:56 PM
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Thanks Thom, I'll see what happens in the next couple of days.
John
Last Edited by on Apr 04, 2010 3:56 PM
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gentle johnnie
146 posts
Apr 04, 2010
3:56 PM
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Your right Thom more trouble in long run- don't waist your time John GOD BLESS!!!
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rookie from ct
GOLD MEMBER
252 posts
Apr 04, 2010
4:35 PM
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John if there are diffrent sizes in the squabs you can switch them in the nest it might help if not cross your fingers and hope for the best,Dennis
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
773 posts
Apr 04, 2010
5:17 PM
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If it,s like you described,head not up and eyes closed and lethargic, It will probable be gone by AM. And that,s probable best.JDA
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TAWhatley
215 posts
Apr 04, 2010
8:14 PM
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While I would agree that this particular baby is not long for this world, I strongly disagree with just ignoring what is going on. You MIGHT have a pair that carries paratyphoid and is passing it on to their young. Same with canker and e.coli or even coccidiosis. To just ignore the fact that a youngster is doing poorly without at least considering that you may have a problem in your loft or at least with the parents doesn't make sense to me.
From what I'm reading here, the consensus is to just let the baby die or dispatch it with no further thought to what really might be wrong.
I truly have no right to post here as I do not fly or raise rollers or any other type of pigeon. I DO, however, have about 150 of them in my care at any given moment and would like to think I've learned a bit about sick and injured pigeons in the 13 years I've been rescuing and rehabbing them. I don't get 'em unless there's something wrong with them or they are babies.
My point here is that you may have a problem with the parents or in your loft and you are going to blow it off because that is what has been suggested to you.
I don't intend to offend anyone with my post here and hopefully have not.
Terry
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Sound Rollers
290 posts
Apr 05, 2010
3:32 AM
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So Terry, lets just say it is paratyphoid/Salmonella would it hurt to treat with Amoxicillin even if this wasn't the case.
John
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
774 posts
Apr 05, 2010
4:43 AM
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I,am not saying not to watch them,but one youngster out of four could be many things.Three youngsters out of four or all four and start treatments with Amoxicillin and pro vital pigeon breeder plus.JDA
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Sound Rollers
291 posts
Apr 05, 2010
5:19 AM
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Bill / All
Brief history on my 4 rollers/two pair this is their first round, the two breeding cages are clean and the nest bowls are new, fresh water, grit and feed provided daily. When I picked up the chick yesterday morning is felt cold, the chick is five days old. I won't be able to check the chick until this evening because of work. I'll post an update tonight.
John
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1707 posts
Apr 05, 2010
6:44 AM
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Terry, You have as much right to express your opinion as anyone. I would hope that no one will be offended by a sincere effort to help.
Joe, I agree 100%, if that one squab is the only symptom I would not rush to medicate. Instead I would watch very closely how the rest develop and if any problems show up then take stronger measures.
Thom
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birdman
810 posts
Apr 05, 2010
1:42 PM
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Sometimes it's best to let nature run its course. I normally prefer the 'Survival of the fittest' program as this will ensure a stronger stud without the need for 'best guess' medicating.
With that said, you could medicate for canker, then with amoxicillin for paratyphoid. If that doesn't do the trick I would let nature do her thing.
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Sound Rollers
292 posts
Apr 05, 2010
2:53 PM
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Well, I just got home from work and checked the loft, the chick is dead, didn't have much in it's crop, the nest mate on the other hand is fat and healthy, pin feathers busting out. The chick that died was a little behind in the development stages, in fact it was skinny, I think the two day hatch separation may have played a part in this. The other two chicks are doing fine and growing fast.
John
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rookie from ct
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254 posts
Apr 05, 2010
3:33 PM
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Sorry to hear that John and yes squabs hatching two days apart can make the difference in makeing it or not that is where fake eggs come in espechelly with young parents pull the first egg and replace w/ fake after second egg slip it back, O and get some fosters good luck Dennis
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
776 posts
Apr 05, 2010
5:08 PM
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John ....The word for pigeons young is squab.JDA
Last Edited by on Apr 05, 2010 5:08 PM
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1709 posts
Apr 05, 2010
6:46 PM
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John, I'm sorry you lost the little one. Watch them close and if you start getting any black eggs or squabs that almost hatch but don't quite make it, let us know. I really think it was the separation and possibly just a weak squab. Study how to prep. your breeders before next years breeding season.
Thom
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johnjay
57 posts
Apr 05, 2010
7:34 PM
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sorry for your loss...
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