gentle johnnie
174 posts
Jun 10, 2010
9:23 AM
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Yesterday was very HOT in Lubbock TX no wind not a breeze- went down to see Mehdi Arzaghi about some of his old line of Pensom that he had sence 1985- was able to pick up 5 pair and two squeakers- Had GREAT TIME talking about them Saw them all fly back at WC Fly was impressed with them- then took wife shopping- had too U see she paid for Birds for my Fathers Day present- Pick up 2 Black Cocks 1 W/F 1 Self- 1 Yellow Mottle- 1 Light Red Grizzle- 1 Dunn Beard W/F and 5 Hens - 1 Almond- 1Dunn Self- 1 Red Self- 1 Blue Ck. Self- and 1 Yellow W/F which I lost while trying to get them in Breeder loft and 2 Sqeakers 1 Red and a Dunn Self. all in all was Great Day! Thanks Mehdi will try to put them to use. GOD BLESS!!! Gentle Johnnie
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
858 posts
Jun 10, 2010
11:53 AM
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johnnie....They could be off the old PRC club of many years ago,The Bob Evans era.Best of luck with them.JDA
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fresnobirdman
676 posts
Jun 10, 2010
8:37 PM
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ahh.
taking the lady shopping.
how could time be better spent.....
-fou
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pat66
499 posts
Jun 11, 2010
3:24 AM
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Pensom did not have yellows and almonds to my knowledge?But good luck with the birds and enjoy them
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ECRA
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gentle johnnie
175 posts
Jun 11, 2010
8:09 AM
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GOD IS GOOD- went out this morning and there she was setting on sun cage- got net- she is now back with mate in loft. I knew when I put the colors on here some of U would say he never had Yellows or Almond that's OK Mehdi has all his records. I guess its not Almond- its Silver with Red Grizzle Black Tick and some Bronze in flights. He had Creams, could they not be crossed w/Red and Black to get Yellows. Call them what U want. I have no reason to doubt Medhi or his Records. GOD BLESS!!!
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Gentle Johnnie "Angels of the Sky Loft"
Last Edited by on Jun 11, 2010 8:15 AM
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
670 posts
Jun 11, 2010
8:20 AM
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Johnnie,
He did have yellows. Raised them to sell because there was a high demand for them. You are right if you have Ash red or recessive red and dilute, eventually you will get yellows and creams
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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gentle johnnie
176 posts
Jun 11, 2010
8:30 AM
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THANKS Joe nice that some one knows that he had Yellows I was sure in my on mind that I had read he had Creams and Yellows. Sometimes I forget but THANKS for Info. -----Gentle Johnnie "Angels of the Sky Loft"
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pat66
500 posts
Jun 11, 2010
8:43 AM
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Johnnie, wasnt doubting you ! I said to my knowledge,we can all learn here-enjoy them ! you pay the feed bill :) Maybe 3757 could shed some light here for us
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ECRA
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winwardrollers
481 posts
Jun 11, 2010
9:26 AM
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I have studied the history of Plona and he had yellows. Finding them in the history of his best birds is another story.
Yellows and almonds are easy sell birds and pleasing to the eye.. end of story.
Roller are simply to be enjoyed.... that is nice of the guy to sell you birds right out of the air gentle Johnnie.
bwinward
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
671 posts
Jun 11, 2010
9:43 AM
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Brad, Would not argue that you won't find many yellows or creams out of WHP's best stuff but then most of his best stuff came from JL Smith and Smith had some yellows and cream bars in his kits. So maybe just need to go a little bit further back.
Pat, I suspect LaRon would tell you the same. The yellows were there to raise a little money to support the rest.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
Last Edited by on Jun 11, 2010 9:44 AM
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pat66
501 posts
Jun 11, 2010
9:57 AM
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Thanks Joe, All my pensoms are from LaRon,I will check with him ,he would surely know!
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ECRA
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Scott
3078 posts
Jun 11, 2010
11:04 AM
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You won't find delute in any of his old stock.. nor will you get yellows out of rec red unless it carries delute..and just because sombody has something on the property or in the kit doesn't make it part of the family either.. it doesn't make them bad birds either though..just enjoy the birds Johnny.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
Last Edited by on Jun 11, 2010 11:06 AM
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Alohazona
714 posts
Jun 11, 2010
11:12 AM
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From a common sense aspect,I can't see where yellows and almonds were a cash cow for these guys.
On another note I have had some outstanding yellows about 7 years ago that got lost in a major overfly,decending from a Bradford yellow.A guy was supposed to breed me a 10 bird kit of them,but that has not come to pass.After getting what he wanted from me....Aloha,Todd
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Scott
3079 posts
Jun 11, 2010
12:07 PM
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Todd.. no doubt the rec yellows are absolutly beautiful and I can certainly see why guys like them..
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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gentle johnnie
177 posts
Jun 11, 2010
1:01 PM
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Pat66 also check if LaRon sold Mehdi Arzaghi some bird years back- one the breeders he got his old line from I belive. I will be down in Lubbock in the next few weeks will check and get names for sure. GOD BLESS!!!
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Gentle Johnnie "Angels of the Sky Loft"
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
672 posts
Jun 11, 2010
4:43 PM
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Scott,
There was plenty of dilute in that old family that came from J Leroy Smith. You can deny it but it was there, saw it with my own eyes. Some branches of his bloodlines may not have carried dilute but others did.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
674 posts
Jun 11, 2010
5:03 PM
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Scott,
By the way which collection of birds do you consider the old family?
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Southplainsroller
31 posts
Jun 14, 2010
12:40 PM
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Hey guys, I am Jake Wright from Lubbock, Tx also. Medhi is a good friend of mine, and to everyone in our club. I wont get into the color debate, because I dont know enough to contribute anything, but I will say that Medhi is honestly one of the nicest guys I've ever met. He fed our entire club and let us use his place for our functions. He rarely sells birds, and has given away twice as many as he has sold. He definetly is no con artisit or feather merchant lol. I can promise you that, and you would think the same if you knew the guy. Just had to throw that in.
Jake
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2972 posts
Jun 14, 2010
2:28 PM
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Hi guys i also know medhi personally we fly in same club....
Medhi is the nicest guy in the club has a beautiful house nice yard and if u visit west tx visit him he will feed you and drink a cold refreshment. he will also fly his birds for you...
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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Velo99
2303 posts
Jun 15, 2010
5:14 AM
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Mehdi is the kind of guy we all want in our club(s). I have to echo the sentiments of Rudy and Jake. He has been working with these birds forever.
You know what they say about rollers. If you breed them long enough you will find all the colors of pigeons.
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V99
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gentle johnnie
182 posts
Jun 15, 2010
11:33 AM
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Hi Guys WTRC members Jake Rudy Kenny- I knew that I should have keep my mouth shout about the colors but that's what happens when your proud of something new in the Loft. Medhi told me to give him what I thought they were worth- he would not set a price. I got 10 proven birds for the same price or less than what I couldn buy 5 at the TPRC sale early this month. on top of that he is giving me some more squeakers next time down. We all know what a NICE guy Medhi is! He is not a feather Merchant. He is an all round GREAT ROLLER MAN- GOD BLESS!!!
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Gentle Johnnie "Angels of the Sky Loft"
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