George R.
363 posts
Jun 28, 2010
9:55 PM
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I believe this is the first region to fly the 2010 prelims .
Here are the results for the South Central region.
1. Chuck Ball 150.15 Qualifier
2. JoeBob Stuka 111.6
3. Cliff Ball 81.12
4. Jay Yandle 72.15
5. Charlie Stack 70.72
6. Dennis Cook 68.64
7. Clay Hoyle 57.12
8. Toby Brady 0
9. Dennis White DQ
10. Steve Meyers DQ
11. Joe Mitchel DNF
Last Edited by on Jun 28, 2010 9:55 PM
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turkey buzzard
149 posts
Jun 29, 2010
5:35 AM
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Curious who was the judge!!!!
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Ballrollers
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2484 posts
Jun 29, 2010
6:52 AM
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Our judge was Eldon Cheney.That would be NBRC Region 1D's 20-bird competition. We flew the 11-bird a couple weeks ago. Chuck, our new RD, scheduled the fly in the summer heat to try to encourage some fliers who refused to fly in the fall because of BOP. Interesting, though.....none of them flew in the 20-bird in the summer heat either. Two of them did enter the 11-bird comp.
The heat was definitely a factor. Chuck got a huge break in the weather when a cold front moved through just before he flew Thursday evening and dropped the temp from 98 degrees to 78 degrees. Most of the rest of us all flew in mid 90 degree temps, except for the two early morning flyers. I gotta give Chuck credit. He selected good birds for his team and fed them right. That's the best his birds have ever looked and he will be a factor in our competitions in this region from here out. We also have three or four other new guys who are coming along and scoring well. This region just keeps getting tougher and tougher.....but that's what makes it fun!
Cliff
Last Edited by on Jun 29, 2010 6:55 AM
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George R.
364 posts
Jun 29, 2010
7:37 AM
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Cliff
Do you think the heat had anything to do with the way the Birds flew ? A while back didnt you and a few other Guys on this forum say that if a team is on it cant be denied.
Im' not sure but didnt you Guys have a vote to decide when to hold the Fly , so I dont think it was Chuck who decided the Fly time by himself .
I have been flying my Birds in 106 degree weather the last few days and they are still flying 30 minutes and working the whole time.
Last Edited by on Jun 29, 2010 8:02 AM
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Ballrollers
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2486 posts
Jun 29, 2010
9:32 AM
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George,
Chuck made the decision as to when the fly would be held and announced it at a meeting. He may have communicated privately with some of the flyers. But I don't begrudge his decision. He was acting as a good RD in an effort to get other flyers to participate in the competition. And he has now learned who he can count on to fly in the competitions in our region. Most everyone's birds flew the time in the heat and humidity....I think only a couple of guys who flew mid-day actually DQ'd. But there is just no reason to schedule a fly when heat plays such a dominant role in the selection of the qualifier. Several of our veteran fliers remarked that their birds were really flat in the heat. Personally, I probably shot myself in the foot. Being concerned with flying in 94 degrees, I whipped up a special solution of electolytes and minerals and eucalyptus for the comp team the day they flew. I think it just made them too strong. They flew for 22 minutes at a great height, flew slow, set up nice, but then glided through nearly every break, unlike I have seen them do before. So much for my brilliant idea! We learn something every fly.
Yes, the heat was definitely a factor, regardless of the family of birds being flown. Chuck will tell you the same thing. And no, I don't think that I have ever said that a team that is "on" cannot be denied. Heat and humididty is always a factor in performance, especially during the transition month into the hot weather. By late july and August, everyone's birds will be used to flying in it and everyone's performance will improve. Family of birds being flown appeared to be irrelevant, based on the groupings of the scores and knowing the families of birds being flown. Even Chuck said that his birds had not flown the time all week in the mid-ninety-degree heat and humidity. He'll be the first to tell you that he was staring at a DQ until the temps dropped for him with that cold front. And I take nothing away from him...his birds looked great and he did a great job with them...and he had a little luck with the weather. Simple enough. Weather is everything in competition. It's the one factor we have no control over.
Cliff
Last Edited by on Jun 29, 2010 9:45 AM
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George R.
365 posts
Jun 29, 2010
7:01 PM
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Cliff
Wow thats a strange Mixture you tried ( electolytes, Eucalyptus and Minerals).
Do you think thats what caused the Kit to Corkscrew and land on the kitbox around 17:00 minute's into the Fly ?
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George R.
366 posts
Jun 30, 2010
6:22 AM
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Walter
You are right my birds only scored 95.16 , it was real windy two weeks leading up to the Fly and I was unable to train them the way that i wanted too, but no excuse the Birds did what they did . I am not ashamed that they got beat less then 3 points for first place.
I am only asking Cliff about the mixture to try and learn from his mistakes and as far as the 17 minutes goes Chuck told me that the Birds were on the Clock for 17 minutes as the official score sheet written by the Judge says not 22 minutes. they probably flew for 22 minutes if Cliff used his whole 5 minutes before he called time in. 17 and 5 equal 22 minutes.
as far as I am concerned Cliff had a good fly , he finished 3rd in a tough region , not an easy thing to do.
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2010 7:10 AM
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Ballrollers
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2487 posts
Jun 30, 2010
8:08 AM
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George,
I have noticed in the past six months or so, my comp team sort of makes up its mind when it is ready to land from 100 feet or so and corkscrews on down. Actually I prefer that, because I rarely have any bump, as opposed to when they are setting up into the wind fifty feet over the loft. I use to lose a good bird or two now and then when they landed like that. So, no, my concoction didn't have anything to so with the way they land. But I do think that it contributed to them being the flatest that I have ever seen them. And you may be right about the time, also. Someone made a comment that my birds flew two minutes past the time....I assumed it was two minutes past the twenty when it must have been two minutes past the required fifteen. I have no reason to doubt Chuck and it doesn't matter at this point.
Cliff
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2010 8:56 AM
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George R.
367 posts
Jun 30, 2010
8:17 AM
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Cliff
thanks for the explanation , you still had a good fly didnt you also finsh second in the 11 bird ?
if you did that good season if you ask me .
Walter
sounds like you are a force to reckon with in your region and in any Fly that comes your way , you guys keep up the good work.
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2010 8:18 AM
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Ballrollers
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2488 posts
Jun 30, 2010
9:08 AM
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George,
Yes, I was hot on Clay's heels in the 11-bird with my bird doing really well into the 13 minute mark. Then the bottom dropped out of the skies...one of those downpours with gusty wind where you can't see 25 yards in front of you. I called time out and headed for the barn. The judge stayed out under an umbrella and he yelled out over the downpour, "Hey Cliff, your birds are back together and you just missed three big breaks." So I called time in again, but the birds were soaked by then and came on down within a few minutes. They made the time, but my not paying attention, and worryng about getting soaked, probably cost me the 11-bird. But we had a great time with an exciting fly, new flyers participating, and similar scenarios that could probably be described for any one of 6 or 8 other guys who could have won it had a few things swung their way just a tad. So I'm happy with the birds, my selections for the team, and my feeding prep....but in order to win, you have to get a few breaks and you have to refrain from shooting yourself in the foot or you will end up in second or third place! LOL!
Cliff
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2010 9:10 AM
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