Jigger
14 posts
Aug 13, 2010
6:59 AM
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I have some wheat that has weevils in it. Not a lot, but some. Is it OK to feed to my rollers?
Is it OK to feed wheat that comes from a grain bin that a farmer has treated with chemicals for weevils?
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
939 posts
Aug 13, 2010
7:11 AM
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Jiggger...NO. Unless you make a bowl with sugar and milk for your self first and if you don't get sick or die, then go head.JDA
Last Edited by on Aug 13, 2010 7:16 AM
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J_Star
2310 posts
Aug 13, 2010
7:57 AM
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Pigeons are hardy. It won't hurt them.
Jay
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Raul Carreiro
89 posts
Aug 13, 2010
8:30 AM
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Hey JDA that was exactly my line of thought LOL! We must have something in common, thoughts that is!
Raul.
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Sound Rollers
382 posts
Aug 13, 2010
9:34 AM
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Leo, did your step dad tell you; in the service one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
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katyroller
742 posts
Aug 13, 2010
10:23 AM
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If we only knew about half the life forms in the food we eat, we'd all starve to death. Jigger, Look at the weevils as extra protein.
Tracey
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Raul Carreiro
90 posts
Aug 13, 2010
11:01 AM
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Hey John, that's a good one LOL!
Raul.
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Raul Carreiro
91 posts
Aug 13, 2010
11:08 AM
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Hey katyroller, that is certainly true! There are many things that get into our food! I have a few friends here locally who have dairy farms, I used to help them out once in a while to milk the cows. I haven't drank milk since!!! If only you saw some of the crap that gets in with the milk including antibiotics, mastitis etc!!
Raul.
Last Edited by on Aug 13, 2010 11:11 AM
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fhtfire
2632 posts
Aug 13, 2010
5:36 PM
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Every grain has eggs already planted from bugs....eat up..LOL....The weevils are not bad unless there is ALOT of them...then they core out he grain and it is hollow and you will see saw dust looking poop....if there are just "SOME" do as he said...lay the bag out in the sun and they are gone...
If the feed store takes them back do that instead....if you pay for non weevil wheat you should get it....they will just sell it to a guy for a reduced price for chickens..they will eat the grain and the weevils.....
Raul you are right...but you better just start eating raw food...LOL...everything that is produced has mouse hair, rats, poop, etc etc....there is a minimum standard allowed..basically it is just about dilution...
As far as the milk..the milk is tested >..EVERY LOAD..if it tests positive for Mastitis it is DUMPED...I too worked in a dairy and I had one goat with mastitis that was real bad....and ruined about 300 gallons of milk...it tested to high....the anitbiotics also show up and cant be in the milk...an animal must wait a time period after treatment and will be taken off the "string"...if not milk is dumped trust me. Farmers will not cheat because EVERY load is checked before it is pumped in the truck...it also goes through many super fine MILK FILTERS and trap all the bad stuff...then they Pasterize and homoginize the milk....basically it is heated up to just before boiling...KILLS all the bad bacteria.....then it is cooled very fast back down to I think the high 30s ...and then churned....then homoginized so that the milk and fast will not seperate....if you get milk straight from the cow and throw it in the fridge...the next morning the "cream will rise to the top" a distinct layer of cream...could be 4" thick....Hom...does not allow the milk to do that...stays eye happy..LOL....So you are safe to drink milk...
If a dairy manager chooses to use an animal that may taint the milk that is retarded....the test everything man..the milk will get dumped...and you have to sterilize the whole system..every pipe, milk machine everything right in front of the inspector....not worth it for a couple extra gallons of milk in the tank...
rock and ROLL
Paul
Last Edited by on Aug 13, 2010 5:38 PM
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Raul Carreiro
93 posts
Aug 14, 2010
5:42 AM
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Hi Paul Thanks for the input on milk. I Am aware of homogenization & pasteurization. I see that you worked with dairy goats! I too up to last year used to breed,show and milk Nubian dairy goats and I loved their appearance and good nature. I imported my first Nubians from Mary Foxx in New Hampshire. Due to high feed and hay costs here and my heavy work load managing a construction company I had little time left to properly care for them for as you know it very time consuming! One good thing about goats milk is that there is no need to homogenize it as the fat globules Cream in goats milk does not separate and I am certain you know this. Goats milk is also healthier than cows milk as it more closely resembles breast milk. When I was younger I drank goats milk strait from milking and I can tell you back then I was as strong as an ox LOL!!
Take care,
Raul.
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katyroller
744 posts
Aug 14, 2010
7:14 AM
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I am also a fan of goats milk. I dabble a little in body building so I am always looking for quality sources of protein. Like many folks, with age I have become slightly lactose intolerant. Anyone having lactose intolerance issues should try goats milk, the extra cost is well worth the money.
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Jigger
15 posts
Aug 15, 2010
10:15 AM
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Thanks to everyone who responded.
No one ever answered the question about feeding wheat chemically treated for weevils. Is it OK?
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katyroller
745 posts
Aug 15, 2010
11:28 AM
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Just about all commercial feeds have been chemically treated. Find out what chemical is being used and do some research on its safety. Most feed stores spread and spray rodent and roach poisons, so our feed is probably getting exposed wheter we know it or not.
Tracey
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
941 posts
Aug 15, 2010
1:41 PM
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Jigger.... if you read my post 939 again.I said for you to eat a bowl with sugar and milk first and if you don't die then it would be ok. What I said is if it has a poison would you eat it???????????JDA
Last Edited by on Aug 16, 2010 5:37 AM
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JMUrbon
1074 posts
Aug 15, 2010
2:12 PM
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Jigger
I guess that is entirely up to you. I have seen bugs in feed for 30 years and never had a bug kill a pigeon. I will get rid of it if it gets to infested but that is mainly because the dust and the empty seed huuls that the birds eat and get nothing out of. As for the chemically treated feed I will tell you that most if not all grains have been treated prior to harvesting. If they have had any sort of chemicals added after harvesting then I would steer clear of them. Joe
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Sound Rollers
386 posts
Aug 15, 2010
4:56 PM
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Jigger, if its seed wheat for planting don't feed it to your rollers
"Question: Is it safe to use chemically treated seed wheat for home storage?
Answer: Do not store or use treated seed wheat. The materials used to treat seed wheat
are poisonous and are designed to kill pests that attack wheat plants during germination."
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
942 posts
Aug 16, 2010
5:32 AM
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John... Thank you,JDA
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Leo
Member
162 posts
Aug 16, 2010
9:00 AM
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John, After inquries on the seed wheat,,my answer from these seed and feed companys is that it will not hurt my birds,Ive feed it for seven yrs now with no ill effects...they certainly could not afford to put chemicals on all of this wheat..or is it they use a shell type chemical..??..Anyway i am proof that it wont kill your birds,,mabe someone on this site can help us along...its interesting...LEO
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Sound Rollers
389 posts
Aug 16, 2010
2:43 PM
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Leo, all im saying is WEEVILS, CHEMICALS, WEEVILS DEAD that type of grain would not be fed to my rollers.
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