2701Dunn
11 posts
Feb 10, 2005
9:42 AM
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Hey guys I have a solution to my hawk problem we discussed earlier this week. Well I have two. I am going to try to fly at 7 am. This is the only time I have not flown and it may be my only window. We will see as soon as the sun starts working on my side.
The second idea is..well you guessed it, portable kit boxes. Me and my bird buddy are going to build this thing hopefully this weekend. Does anyone know anything about this type of flying and any suggestions or anything at all on this to get me started.
I have a young bird kit of 11 I am going to start with. They flew a couple of time out at my buddies house but never at mine. They are getting famaliar with the surrounding because I have had them out in the cages so they can get use to the area. Anyways, they are suppose to be good birds just the roll comes a little later which I like that. What do you guys have to say about this??
Love to hear all responses again, you are welcome to email me to let me know too !
Dunn2701@yahoo.com
Thanks a lot !
Cameron
Last Edited by 2701Dunn on Feb 10, 2005 9:44 AM
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Alan Bliven
87 posts
Feb 10, 2005
4:41 PM
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Here's a site about Portable Lofts for Rollers:
http://www.angelfire.com/ks/rollerpigeon/portable.html
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Alan
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Mount Airy Lofts
45 posts
Feb 10, 2005
8:41 PM
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If it is any help, to what I hear about portable loft flying - it is near impossible to fly competitive birds. If you don't care about competing then that is a different story.
My local roller club went thru the era when portable loft flying was quite popular. Almost all the members built their own portable loft. They would all meet up at a parking ramp or of that nature and fly one at a time. If I recall correctly, one year they had this National Portable Competition meet in one of the Mideast state. The local guys plucked the best birds out of their portable lofts and made a team out of these. Two of the members drove hundreds of miles to the state hosting the Portable Loft competition - portable loft attached and made a pretty competitive team which took 2nd place in this BIG national portable loft competition meet. Talking to the veteran fliers today that went thru that era... non had good things to say about it. Every one told me that it was hard enough trying to fly from a stationary area. One thing every one agreed was that it was a fun tho. Not much rolling nor was there quality but still fun to all meet up and fly their portable lofts.
I have a design of a pretty impressive portalbe loft on my website: http://www.geocities.com/khaoslovecas/mobile.html
If you would like to know more about portable loft flying, give me a email and I'll foward you two emails of guys who has logged in many-many years of portable loft flying.
Minnesota Flying Roller Group Librarian/Secretary,
Thor
khaos_thor@hotmail.com
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Coach P
16 posts
Feb 11, 2005
6:10 AM
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Here is a thought what if you only took the portable loft to the same spot each time, example you don’t have a great place to fly at home so you take the loft to say a local park or school grounds, each time you train and fly…this way it seems you would not have to go through some of the problems by moving the loft around to different sites the birds would only be trained to that one site…just a thought….
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2701Dunn
12 posts
Feb 11, 2005
6:26 AM
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That was my idea. I don't think I am going to fly at home anymore because of the hawk that lives there. I have one spot picked out not to far from home that I plan to use every time. Then the birds will feel comfortable. I am not even sure if i am competing this year but i want too. Thanks for all the info guys !!
Cameron
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Coach P
18 posts
Feb 11, 2005
8:36 AM
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Then I would build two kit boxes on a 4x8 ft trailer so all you have to do is back up and hook up instead of loading it on the back of a pickup…
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Mount Airy Lofts
46 posts
Feb 12, 2005
4:52 AM
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C.P.,
Flying at a stationary location is sort of like flying at your place of resident. The sky sharks will get you! That's why I hear some guys moving to different locations to aviod such feats. Moving around will keep the sharks guessing.
If you keep on flying at the same location, the hawks will hone in and stick it thru until they had enough... and we all know that they never do.
My thought about portable loft flying is that - you do have the option of different locations to fly. Flying them here one week... flying them there the other.
If you were to ask me the ideal place to fly rollers... I would say somewhere in the country where you see nothing but crop fields. Tree or building filled area are the worst place to put them up. These days, the coopers and falcons are all over those areas. You would think they would be more sharks in the country then in the city limits but no can do. The city limits seems to be the breeding grounds for these sky sharks in todays time. This is due to all those relocation programs. Funny how these falcons are suppose to be native to the cliff side landscapes. Well, I guess captive breeding changed that!
Good luck in the endeavors of flying portable,
Thor
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Mother lode lofts
492 posts
Feb 12, 2005
9:10 AM
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Personally I think that there are to many negatives as far as getting a good hardworking team out of one. One being lack of training time due to it just much work, Another is if you are constantly moving the birds would be focused on the where the box is and not be able to settle down and work. It seems like just being able to get the birds to do it is the goal of many of the mobile guys. I think that flying out of mobile is a game of it's own. Of coarse if you just moved them to the same spot because it is better than your own backyard than it can be like normal flying as long as you can find the time to do this and train properly. But what if a hawk comes through and scatters the kit or pushes them up past dark ?
just my opinion
Scott
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Mother lode lofts
493 posts
Feb 12, 2005
2:30 PM
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But Rod that is illegal, so of coarse that isn't an option . Keep in mind that this is an open forum.
Scott
PS Rod I was going to email you back this weekend, just getting overthe flu here
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RodB
56 posts
Feb 12, 2005
3:55 PM
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oops , wasnt looking at legalitys just practicalitys .
Rod
PS
No problems Scott , was just not sure if you got it as I have been having trouble with my email lately , hope the flu dont knock you about to much mate , all the best .
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J_Star
205 posts
Feb 12, 2005
5:40 PM
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Dunn, Each hawk has an area of a few miles in diameter to hunt. How far are you going to go to fly your kit? And like Scott said, what if the hawk scattered your birds and they did not come back down. You will lose the whole kit. Deal with your problem with the way you think it fits your situation best. This kind of topic we handle it through email. Best of Luck
Jay
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