Newflyer
3 posts
Jun 08, 2005
1:50 PM
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Can anyone please tell me what the difference is between a Roller and a Tumbler. Dont they fly the same way?? And are they one in the same bird?
thanks Paul
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highroller
26 posts
Jun 08, 2005
2:11 PM
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A tumbler will do a few flips or tumbles while flying and a roller will put many high speed flips together so that it looks like a ball of feathers dropping from the sky. I think most agree that the tumbler was used in making the roller. There are probably a lot of birds out there that are called rollers but only tumble a little. Not all roller offspring will be good rollers; it takes a lot of selective breeding and considerable culling to maintain complete kits of good rollers.
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fhtfire
142 posts
Jun 08, 2005
7:34 PM
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A tumber...to me looks like a bird that has been shot...wings all over the place...falling like a dish rag!...A roller balls up and drops straight down...like a blurr.
rock and ROLL
Paul Fullerton
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Newflyer
4 posts
Jun 09, 2005
4:38 PM
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Once again thanks to all you guys for giving me all the right answers to my questions. Hick........ who needs all those Books out their. When all a guy has to do is to address all the seasoned flyers out their with their questions. Thanks Once again to ALL
Paul
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Alan Bliven
176 posts
Jun 11, 2005
6:44 PM
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I might add most breeds labeled as "Tumbler" don't even tumble anymore. The show breeders bred that ability out of them long ago.
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Alan
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newbreeder22292
3 posts
Sep 09, 2005
10:09 AM
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a roller does like a backwards summersalt.
and a tumbler stops flying and tumble to the ground then pulls up be for impact
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Mount Airy Lofts
41 posts
Sep 09, 2005
11:52 PM
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Paul,
To my under standing, all rollers originated as tumblers. They were just selected by hard core performanced minded fellows and branched off as a variety. Some fanciers favored the single flippers. Some went for birds that could sting acouple of flips. Others just bred them for the show pen. Some bred for continuous action but all ranging in the short depths (5-15 feet). While there were a few that only bred from the best performers and continued it until they finally bred birds that could roll with the ultimate performance for some yards. As you can see, we play a major roll in what we want to breed for. Some times even changing the original makeup of these breeds by our selection.
Even pure bred Birmingham Rollers can breed just common tumblers. All of which would be 'culled' by a serious flier.
Tumblers to me is any pigeon that can tumble. Rollers is any pigeon that can roll. Simple as that. There are numerous breeds of Rollers and Tumblers out there.
There is no word that one can use to describe a Birmingham Roller. You can only learn what one is by seeing one first hand from a very hard core flier.
Tumblers are easily bred... a Birmingham Roller is a whole different story.
I have seen tumblers do drives, tail ride, flip over once, string flips, and even roll like dish rags for 20 feet. Tumblers are what their name states...
Thor
P.S. You are missing out if you don't have at least one favorite book on your side for referrance. There are some classic books that one can only appreciate if he or she owns it. As you might of known, the internet wasn't around back then so the books were the only source one in a remote place can take referrance from. The interent will always be here but a great out of print book is priceless!!
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Sep 10, 2005 12:05 AM
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upcd
35 posts
Sep 10, 2005
10:50 PM
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I have people out there telling Rollers go one direction and tumbler go another direction. What do you think?
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Mount Airy Lofts
43 posts
Sep 11, 2005
7:22 PM
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Front flipping and Back Flipping? Ha! No truths to that at all.
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