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motherlodelofts
75 posts
Jun 15, 2005
4:47 PM
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Truce Bob , I'm allways willing to move on.
Bob, Kenny told me just a while back that Monty Neible told him that the key to flying good birds is being able to "hold" on to the good one's.
Without a doubt I've learned to fly smarter and I've learned to limit my losses of good birds.
Hawks can give me fits at certain time's even though I have it easier than many, my largest enemy is the unstable weather that I can encounter in Winter and Spring.
Sitting up against the Sierra Nevada's it can eat up a kit of birds quick, a good example of this is I'm down 4 birds out of my A team from yesterday , I'm still numb from it.
As for Hawk season , If you have a problem they are going to get ate, and once they are gone they are gone.
myself I lock down the A team for periods and when I do fly it is more like once a week or once every two weeks.
Come late Fall I also have a team of young birds that are showing real promise, I treat these the same as the A team.
The problem with hawks is they can learn in a heartbeat where there is a constant food supply.
Then you have a guy like ol Dave flying kit after kit , (10 kits ?) right smack through hawk season ?
Bob I once had two others close by that flew the same way as Dave, several things happened.
one, it took the heat off of me.
Two, all their good ones got ate, hell "most" got ate.
three, their leftovers showed it in the way they flew long after the hawks quit eating them.
Four, they were scraping for birds come late Spring.
Bob these guys breed twice the birds that I do but it was like they lived in a different world hawk wise compared to me, and one I ccan see his roof once the leaves drop in Fall.
What I am getting at is that breeding more due to hawk losses isn't the answer as that also means more birds in the air to become hawk magnets.
For me it evolves around "trying" to fly as smart as I can, and at time's the birds are just held in for a better day or days. But I still fly year round,just pick and choose my days and what birds I want to gamble which are normally birds that I an trying to get into the roll.
But above all once the good fly times and clearer skys arrive I still have "most" of the cream and kits that aren't flying hawk scared.
Scott
Last Edited by motherlodelofts on Jun 15, 2005 5:16 PM
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spinnerpigeon
23 posts
Jun 15, 2005
6:12 PM
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Bob,
Consider yourself lucky! Here by me, in Michigan. It is usally sometime in September when the hawks come back. I have talked to Highroller about this alot, since he lives pretty close to me. This is one of the main reasons we both don't fly in competion, is because by the time mid-October comes around we wouldn't have any birds to put up! lol. Just my 2 cents.
Caleb
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Bluesman
Pigeon Fancier
279 posts
Jun 16, 2005
3:17 AM
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Scott. Good post.I am still pondering over it.LOL.
Right now I am flying 3 kits.By fall I will be flying 6 kits.(I hope)Also I will have a few small kits of crosses etc to fly.I have 10 kit boxes but seldom have them full.I fly a lot of kits with only 12 or so birds in them.
I usually have a kit of culls I fly to bait the Hawks too.
What you said about a kit flying in defense mode made a lot of sense.No use flying rollers if they are not going to roll.Again very good post and a lot to rethink. David
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